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\Slash{}pol\Slash{} - Politically Incorrect » Thread \#154963372 (4plebs.org)


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}154963372\Slash{}}

\chapter{OP}


Anonymous ID:XiNDD8mw Sat 30 Dec 2017


In this thread I will narrate the life of Ted Kaczynski from his birth in 1942 until his current age of 75.


I intend to cover:


- his childhood and adolescence


- his university experience


- his life after leaving academia


- his experience living in rural Montana


- his arrest and experience in prison


Please bump to keep this thread alive if it interests you.


\hairline


Note: a similar thread has previously been posted, but this is a more detailed biography of his life.


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154963544}{154963544}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


you're the best an*lo. I love your threads! have a bump beady eyed bro

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154963686}{154963686}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


Bump

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154963764}{154963764}


On the birth of Ted Kaczynski



\begin{quote}


The South Carpenter Street neighbourhood [\dots{}] was a Polish working-class community when Theodre Richard "Turk" Kaczynski and Wanda Theresa Dombek Kaczynski moved into the second-floor flat of a narrow, three-story frame house around two years after World War II [\dots{}] Ted [was] born on May 22, 1942



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's parents



\begin{quote}


Turk worked in the family sausage business near the South Side stockyards and followed politics passionately. But all who knew him say he loved books even more. [\dots{}] he liked to invite intellectuals to his home, to discuss and argue about authors, ideas, and politics. [\dots{}] Their love of books and their agnosticism set them apart from blue-collar neighbors.



\end{quote}


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On Ted's experience in hospital as an infant



\begin{quote}


she (Ted's mother) told me one about my brother's early life: When Teddy was a little baby just nine months old he had to go to the hospital because of a rash that covered his little body. [\dots{}] I remember how your brother screamed in terrir when I had to hand him over to the nurse and she took him away [\dots{}] They had to stick lots of needles in Teddy, who was much too young to understand that everything being done to him was for his own good. He was terrible afraid, and he thought Dad and I had abandoned him to cruel strangers. [\dots{}] That hospital experience hurt him deeply, and the hurt never went away completely



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted as an infant



\begin{quote}


David and Wanda also admitted that Ted had bee "different" - abnormally quiet, ungregarious, and sometimes unresponsive - since he was a baby.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154964287}{154964287}


On young Ted's reaction to seeing a rabbit being caught



\begin{quote}


One summer [\dots{}] our father, Ted Sr., caught a baby rabbit in our backyard. He placed the little animal in a wooden cage covered with a screen top. Several neighbourhood kids clustered around to gape at the rabbit, and our father seemed proud to show it off. [\dots{}] Ted was the last kid to join the onlookers [\dots{}] But as soon as he glimpsed the little rabbit, cowering in a corner of the cage, his reaction was instinctive: "Oh, oh, let it go!" he said with panicked urgency. Suddenly I saw everything differently. Only then did I notice that the young rabbit was trembling with fright. Only then did I realize that we were being cruel.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On young Ted's reaction to his father shooting a rabbit



\begin{quote}


Teddy was a young boy then , eager to come along with me when I went rabbit hunting [\dots{}] Teddy was really into it, on the lookout for rabbits as we roamed the grassy fields of Indiana farmland. [\dots{}] But as we stood over the dead rabbit, Teddy's mood changed. He seemed crushed to see this once animate, alert creature stretched out lifeless on the ground. 'Oh,' the poor, poor bunny!' he wailed. Then he started crying. I felt terrible, reflecting on the pointless killing I had just done and the effect of that senseless deed written on Teddy's face.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On young Ted helping a disabled girl in his area



\begin{quote}


The little girl recovered, but she was left with a speech difficulty. One day, after the toddler had returned home, Dorothy O'Connell heard her daughter cry out excitedly, "Hassgropper!" "Oh, no, Janice," Teddy John Kaczynski explained, quietly and patiently. "Grasshopper. This is an insect." Then Dorothy O'Connell listened with fascination as Teddy John told the child just how many legs a grasshopper has and what biological phylum, or classification, it belongs to.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154964968}{154964968}


cmon this aint david copperfield.


gimmie the goods


i hung out in teds shack. he was a weirdo - and thats native montana standards. everyone at trixie's agrees. he went nutty because of his isolation.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154965128}{154965128}


On young Ted's discomfort with intimacy



\begin{quote}


When hugged as a child, he squired instead of hugging back. Later on in adolescence, he stiffened when being hugged by his mother. It was as if Ted's way of relating obeyed a different set of rules. Unable to fathom Ted's internal physics, Dad eventually gave up, whereas Mom preferred to believe that Ted's sensitive inner self was normally loving, only hard to reach.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On young Ted's affection for his younger brother David



\begin{quote}


Teddy had tried to give me his most prized possession - a coin collections - when I returned home from a brief stay in the hospital. "Teddy, your brother knows how you feel about him," I remembered Mom saying. "You don't need to give Davy your coin collection. He knows you love him.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's mother's one lesson to Ted's brother David as a child



\begin{quote}


Please remember that you must never abandon your brother, because that's what he fears most



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154965762}{154965762}


Bump

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154965815}{154965815}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


is this from a book? if yes, which one?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154965860}{154965860}


Oh boi.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154965908}{154965908}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


No time to enjoy this thread, but here's a bump because I always enjoy your threads. I remember reading the Oklahoma City bomber one quite a while back. Glad you're still around.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154965937}{154965937}


OP here. I have read every available source for the sake of this thread, excluding the private documents held by the University of Michigan.


\hairline


On Ted's mother teaching him to read



\begin{quote}


Wanda Kaczynski was especially well-read and articulate, familiar with science and the works of Shakespeare, Austen, Dickens, Thackeray and other authors whose books crowded her shelves. [\dots{}] Wanda kept a diary about her boy and read to him daily from children's books, then from classic boys' literature and later from surprisingly advanced materials. A neighbor said Teddy was in grade school when Wanda began reading him articles from Scientific American that a college student might find challenging



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Wanda Kaczynski's maternal efforts



\begin{quote}


He was viewed as a bright child and was described by his mother as not being particularly comfortable around other children and displaying fears of people and buildings. She noted that he played beside other children rather than with them. Her concern about him apparently led her to consider enrolling him in a study being conducted by Bruno Betleheim regarding autistic children. [\dots{}] Wanda Kaczynski indicated that she did not pursue that opportunity. Instead, she utilized advice published by Dr. Spock in attempting to rear her son.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's family's reading habits



\begin{quote}


At home, family life seemed normal, if a bit intellectual. The Kaczynskis kept philosophy books on the coffee table.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's vocabulary as a child



\begin{quote}


On one occasion, when he was 11, he joined his mother, Dorothy O'Connell and another neighbor in a game of Scrabble. "Teddy came along and sat down and beat all three of us," O'Connell says. "His vocabulary at that age was so great he could beat three grown women."



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154965967}{154965967}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963764}{>>154963764}


I guess you could say he was a Baby Boomer in the truest sense.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966130}{154966130}


Have a bump from burgerland.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966214}{154966214}


On young Ted's kindness towards his brother



\begin{quote}


He remembered small acts of kindness, too: how Ted once nailed a spool to the bottom of a screen door so that David, a toddler too small to reach the handle, could go in and out; how Ted later imparted his knowledge of woodsmanship and plant life



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's favorite book as a child



\begin{quote}


A year or so later, the Kaczynskis took a vacation. Teddy had a favorite book. He knocked on Dorothy O'Connell's door with the book under his arm, and he gave it to her for safekeeping until he got back home. She put it out of harm's way, on top of her refrigerator. One day she happened to take it down and look at it. She was stunned. The book was called, "Romping through Mathematics, From Addition to Calculus."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's early academic success



\begin{quote}


Ted would use the school library for more intensive studies beyond the texts. There was a four-volume set on mathematics in my basement. Ted borrowed that. He took all of the hard courses, and he skipped at least one grade. Rippey gave him straight A's. [Teacher Robert F. Rippey] ranks Ted Kaczynski among his top four or five students in 50 years of teaching.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966277}{154966277}


Bump, literally know nothing of this man, looking forward to a very informative thread.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966362}{154966362}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154965937}{>>154965937}


>Dr. Spock


Theres a good case for the boomers fuck ups to be laid at that cunts door. Permissiveness and gratification over values and discipline etc.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966419}{154966419}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


Hey do you have a link to the one you did of Hitler and his ww1 experience? I love these!

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966422}{154966422}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154965937}{>>154965937}


He sounds like a wonderful man.


Bombing leftie professors was the only way the world would listen to his warnings.


Just think, the USA has one of the greatest geniuses on the modern era locked up in a supermax for trying to kill some professors who spent their entire lives poisoning the youth with Marxist ideas.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966434}{154966434}


Bump

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966465}{154966465}


Someone make sure to compile everything into a screencap for future use

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966494}{154966494}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154966422}{>>154966422}


Err that's not exactly what he was doing.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966506}{154966506}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963764}{>>154963764}


Bamp

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966575}{154966575}


On Ted’s elementary school experience



\begin{quote}


Mr. Kaczynski attended kindergarten and grades one through four at Sherman Elementary School in Chicago [\dots{}] “Mr. Kaczynski [\dots{}] remembers not fitting in [\dots{}] and being the subject of considerable verbal abuse and teasing [\dots{}]. He did not describe having any close friends during that period of time.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On one neighbour's memory of young Ted as a loner



\begin{quote}


the neighbors noticed something else. "He was always a loner," remembers Emily Butcher, now in her 90s. "He walked with his head down. Like this." Emily Butcher drops her head even more deeply onto her cane. "Even when he reached high school," says LeRoy Weinberg, who lived behind the Kaczynskis, "Ted never acknowledged a greeting. He just kept his head to the ground. . . . He was a loner."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On highschool classmate Bill Phelan's memory of Ted



\begin{quote}


By the time he entered Evergreen Park Community High School, Teddy was having more trouble fitting in. [\dots{}] most classmates [\dots{}] regarded him as alien, or not at all. To Bill Phelan, Teddy was a nerd: thin, short, quiet, painfully shy. "He was reading books, and I was playing sports and drinking beer," Mr. Phelan said. "He wasn't in my world. He was in his own world."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On highschool classmate Loren De Young's memory of Ted



\begin{quote}


Loren De Young remembered him as a kind of nonperson. "He was never really seen as a person, as an individual personality," he said. "He was always regarded as a walking brain, so to speak."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On a neighbour's memory of the young Ted



\begin{quote}


he remembered Teddy as skinny and self-absorbed. "He was strictly a loner," Dr. Weinberg said. "This kid didn't play. No. No. He was an old man before his time."



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966829}{154966829}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154966575}{>>154966575}


Fucking normies, Chad's, and (((Berg's)))


>thin, short, quiet


Manlets when will they learn?

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966914}{154966914}


On young Ted as out-of-place in school



\begin{quote}


Kaczynski never wore the Levis and engineer boots sported by others at Evergreen Park High School, said classmate Wayne Tripton. Instead, he carried a leather briefcase. [\dots{}] Still, Tripton said he doesn't remember Ted standing out in a crowd. "It was like Ted could be there and be disappeared at the same time."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On David Kaczynski's early worries about his brother



\begin{quote}


puzzled by the long hours Ted spent quietly in his room upstairs, I remember approaching Dad with the same question I'd once asked our mother: "What's wrong with Ted?" My father pointed out that Ted's intellectual interests set him apart from most of his classmates. While Ted read books about relativity theory, they were listening to Elvis and going to sock-hops. Someday, Dad said, Ted would go off to college and meet other young people with similar interests. He would form close friendships, would eventually marry and raise a family of his own. Ted would "find himself," Dad predicted - it just might take him a little longer.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's struggle to fit in socially



\begin{quote}


His aunt still remembers the cut of his arrogance. "Once when I was over to his home, he was just sitting there, and his father said to him, 'Why don't you have some conversation with your aunt?' And he answered: 'Why should I? She wouldn't understand me anyway.' [\dots{}] As Teddy entered his teens, his social handicaps were increasingly apparent. David said his brother sometimes joined him and his friends in a softball game on the playground, even though they were far younger. The same thing happened later in life, too. "The contacts were through me in a sense," David said. "The important thing was the relationship with me, or I'm a buffer. That made him feel safe."



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154966999}{154966999}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


Have a bump anon

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967067}{154967067}


MK Ultra victim as most of u know. Weaps used on him starting in teens\dots{} microwaved and lased in Harvard.


His a-hole brother finally got him disappeared\dots{} he was ten times smarter than his brother thats why they chose Ted.


I wonder if the CIAnigger survivors of his letterbombs continued to torture kids.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967120}{154967120}


bump

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967157}{154967157}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


Hidden, saged, not politics. you didn't know the guy, this thread is dumb

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967279}{154967279}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154967067}{>>154967067}


Please fuck off you mouthbreathing dumbfuck.


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/x/}{\LR{\Slash{}x\Slash{}}}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967296}{154967296}


A bump for you my good scholar.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967334}{154967334}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154967157}{>>154967157}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154967279}{>>154967279}


At least is a real human.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967390}{154967390}


On Ted's parents' concern for their young son



\begin{quote}


Concerned over his social development, the Kaczynskis consulted school guidance counselors, but never took Teddy to a psychiatrist [\dots{}]. Teddy often went into moody depressions, retreating to his bedroom for days on end, coming down only for meals. "He was not happy in school," David said. "I think he had become during adolescence more withdrawn."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On young Ted the prankster



\begin{quote}


As a high school student in suburban Chicago, Unabomber suspect Theodore Kaczynski was a "socially inept" prankster who built small bombs, two former classmates say. [\dots{}] Lorin and Jo Ann De Young, who run a small private school in San Jose, said Kaczynski's intellectual brilliance wasn't matched emotionally. "Ted was just very socially immature," Lorin De Young said Monday. "He was a little bit of a prankster. I guess just to get attention."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted attempting to befriend local youths



\begin{quote}


Carpenter Street lay in a tough neighborhood, and as Ted grew older he began to realize that some of his friends were budding juvenile delinquents. When a group attacked an old homeless man, pelting him with garbage, Ted started drawing away. [\dots{}] his comrades, sensing his retreat, "saw me as too much of a good boy."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's strange first date



\begin{quote}


Kaczynski [\dots{}] lacked even elementary social skills. Russell Mosny recalls one of Kaczynski's rare dates. [He] borrowed his parent's car and took a girl to a movie. A half hour into the show, he excused himself and walked out of the theater, then returned [\dots{}] thirty minutes later he left again, then returned. He repeated these mysterious exits twice more. But the last time he did not return. After the movie was over, the girl found Ted waiting for her on the street. "Where have you been?" she asked. "I parked the car at a thirty-minute meter and had to keep putting nickels in," he explained. [\dots{}] "I ran out of money for tickets to get back into the theater.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967437}{154967437}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154966914}{>>154966914}


>What's wrong with Ted?


David K\dots{} worst brother in history. David learned he was MK and not only didnt help\dots{} he got him disappeared into Supermax yrs later. Fuck David Kascz.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967553}{154967553}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154966419}{>>154966419}


Here you go lad


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/150760491/}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}150760491\Slash{}}


If you search in 4plebs \Slash{}pol\Slash{} for "narrate the life of" you'll find all biography anons threads.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967701}{154967701}


On Ted Kaczynski as a university professor at UC Berkley



\begin{quote}


Ted Kaczynski was exposed to some of the most radical left wing activism on the UC Berkley campus; but none of that seemed to have affected Ted Kaczynski or so we thought.



\begin{quote}


Ted Kaczynski was described by his associates as pathologically shy.



\end{quote}


>Ted received terrible teacher evaluations from students, the evaluations described him as too nervous during lectures, unclear and unorganized lectures, not very helpful especially during office hours.


>After two years he resigned with no given explanation to why he would give up his hard earned prestigious title as a math professor in one of the best mathematics departments in the country.



\end{quote}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967861}{154967861}


>On Ted's strange first date



\begin{quote}


Kaczynski [\dots{}] lacked even elementary social skills. Russell Mosny recalls one of Kaczynski's rare dates. [He] borrowed his parent's car and took a girl to a movie. A half hour into the show, he excused himself and walked out of the theater, then returned [\dots{}] thirty minutes later he left again, then returned. He repeated these mysterious exits twice more. But the last time he did not return. After the movie was over, the girl found Ted waiting for her on the street. "Where have you been?" she asked. "I parked the car at a thirty-minute meter and had to keep putting nickels in," he explained. [\dots{}] "I ran out of money for tickets to get back into the theater.



\end{quote}


This would make for a funny greentext and be viewed under the lens of awkward teenage interaction if it wasn't for TK's actions later in life. People attribute these sorts of things to malice where it doesn't exist. This could be a families favorite story to hear from grandpa about his first date with grandma, instead it's painted as the dark foreboding event that signaled abnormality.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967888}{154967888}


On Ted's disposition as a teenager



\begin{quote}


He admits that he was "probably a very difficult teenager to live with" and that his parents "were in some respect generous and unselfish." He describes developing a "system of morality that evolved into an abstract artificial construction that could not possibly be applied in practice" but never telling anybody about this system because he knew they would never take it seriously. At the same time, he describes looking for a way to justify hating people.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted telling a stranger about his unhappy childhood



\begin{quote}


An earnest, almost pleading fellow in search of work. That was the message that came with Kaczynski's hand-delivered letter [\dots{}] to Becky Garland, a local environmental activist [\dots{}] he also revealed a grown man who still lamented a childhood truncated by his academic success. He was "letting us know a little bit about his childhood, just that he had missed a lot of it, by his education," recalled Garland, who read the letter the same day her sister received it in the summer of 1994. "Being educated so much . . . he was different because of it."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted recalling his unhappiness at school



\begin{quote}


Throughout his writings and conversations, he focuses on the fact that he was moved from the fifth to seventh grade. He identifies this as the cause of his lack of development of social skills, a problem that continues with him to the present. Between the seventh and 12th grade, he perceived "a gradual increasing amount of hostility I had to face from the other kids. By the time I left high school, I was definitely regarded as a freak by a large segment of the student body."



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967931}{154967931}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154967437}{>>154967437}


You sound like you have a very low IQ.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154967933}{154967933}


Bump. Literally the only interesting thread on this board full of gay wad propogandists at the moment.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968026}{154968026}


On Ted leaving Illinois for Harvard



\begin{quote}


Ted left for Harvard when he was sixteen. It never would have occurred to me that my brother would suffer as a result of social isolation (and worse) there, because I had no idea he needed anything from people. I thought of him as emotionally self-sufficient, free of my "weakness" for human companionship, my need for social validation. Only years later did it occur to me that I probably mistook his introversion and strong defenses for emotional strength.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's struggle to fit in with wealthy students



\begin{quote}


Barely 16 years old, he went to Harvard. In the late 1950s, it was a men's club, wealthy, WASPy and elitist. When Ted Kaczynski, the shy, Polish-American son of a sausage maker, arrived, eyes down and wearing a garish plaid jacket, he was met by students who wore suits and ties to class.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted recalling his early efforts to make friends at Harvard



\begin{quote}


there was a good deal of snobbery at Harvard [\dots{}] The house master, John Finley [\dots{}] often treated me with insulting condescension. As a result, when my first attempts to make friends were met with a cool reception, I just gave up and became solitary.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968156}{154968156}


I dont see David K's depiction heading towards the truth\dots{} so here it is \Slash{}pol\Slash{}\dots{}.


Ted after Harvard decided to research all of the fuckers who operated or developed or implemented the DEW for MK Ultra onto him in his youth. They were making millions torturing him and other kids and he obviously expressed his displeasure with them by sending them hurtful gifts. Only 3 deaths resulted in his revenge.


OBTW ted speaks fluent Russian and is one of the smartest people in America \dots{} so I am told.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968273}{154968273}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154967931}{>>154967931}


Damn that hurts.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968471}{154968471}


can everyone stfu I'm trying to read

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968516}{154968516}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968156}{>>154968156}


Here's some guesses:


1. You are overweight.


2. You delve into conspiracy theories.


3. You engage in porn


4. You have missed out on many opportunities in life, and you are scared to face what this implies about you.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968520}{154968520}


On Ted's lack of confidence as a young man



\begin{quote}


His confidence in his intellect was not matched by any visceral confidence in his worth as a person, and over time the divide would only grow larger. His self-confidence became infected with doubt, recoiled, and then redoubled toward arrogance and grandiosity. His separation from loved ones, combined with his social awkwardness, fed the fear that he was unlovable. His early training sustained him for years. He knew how to maintain appearances up to a point, but it cost him great effort, and that effort eventually wore him down.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On fellow Harvard housemates' memory of Ted



\begin{quote}


what they remembered about him at Harvard were his annoying trombone blasts in the dead of night, the primordial stench of rotting food that drifted from his room, his odd metronomic habit of rocking back and forth on a chair as he studied, and his icy aloofness as he strode through the suite, saying nothing, slamming his door to shut them out.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Harvard suitmate Patrick McIntosh's memory of Ted



\begin{quote}


I don't recall more than 10 words being spoken by him. [\dots{}] "He was intensely introverted," Mr. McIntosh said of Mr. Kaczynski. "He wouldn't allow us to know him. I never met anybody like him who was as extreme in avoiding socialization. [\dots{}] "He wouldn't allow us to know him," McIntosh said. "At the same time, you had the impression that he was brilliant."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's obscurity in college



\begin{quote}


If Ted was a misfit in high school, he virtually disappeared in college. "With only 17 people in that place, you would think I would remember everything about this guy," Bauer says. "I don't." It was not that this was 38 years ago. "If you had asked me that question a year after graduation, I would have given the same response."



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968607}{154968607}


I though you already did a Ted thread? Not that I mind good reposts.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968615}{154968615}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


based UK Teddy poster

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968636}{154968636}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968798}{154968798}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968516}{>>154968516}


What do u know about Ted\dots{} anyone in your family ever speak with him? Name an aircraft carrier and I have likely landed on it. Ever imagined flying a tailhook airplane on your mothers couch you retard?

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968826}{154968826}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968607}{>>154968607}


OP here. I did but that thread lacked many details and ended at the point at which he was arrested.


\hairline


On Ted as a quiet and forgettable roommate



\begin{quote}


Ted spent almost no time in the common room. He was "extremely reclusive," Patrick S. MacIntosh, another of the Midwesterners, told the Boston Globe. In the three years that Ted Kaczynski lived in Eliot House, MacIntosh says, "I don't recall more than 10 words being spoken by him. Ted stands out only for being completely without relationship to anyone in the suite."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's untidy room in college



\begin{quote}


The suitemates also remember Ted's housekeeping. "His room was an unholy mess, the worst mess I've ever seen in my life," MacIntosh says. "Sometimes it smelled like he had left his lunch in there for weeks."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's academic ability in college



\begin{quote}


Indeed, Ted was more than an independent thinker. He was independent, period. While most students wanted help with their research, Duren says, Ted Kaczynski worked alone. He was meticulous. He wrote his explanations and proofs in greater detail than Duren and other professors considered necessary, and he printed the proofs in neat, square, evenly spaced letters.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted as a studious loner



\begin{quote}


Ted Kaczynski was a loner socially, as well. John Remers, who lived in East Quad, took classes with him. He remembers that Ted always ate by himself. "I doubt I ever exchanged a word with him," Remers says. "What struck me is that he was never with people. He didn't seem to socialize. He was totally self-absorbed, always at the library and focused on math." In his second year, Ted moved off campus and lived in small rooms on nearby streets. "He behaved well to other people," Duren says, "but he was wrapped up in the work he was doing."



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968893}{154968893}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968826}{>>154968826}


ah okay. nice

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968907}{154968907}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154964968}{>>154964968}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154968935}{154968935}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968520}{>>154968520}


>On Ted's obscurity in college


Still waiting on MK Ultra part of your "story

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969077}{154969077}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968798}{>>154968798}


I find the bitterness of your response amusing. I believe I must've said some things that touch some truth about your persona.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969260}{154969260}


Bump

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969314}{154969314}


I recently started to read technological slavery, many of the points raised are quite enlightening but the narrative is so unrelenting pessimistic and outright hostile at times.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969344}{154969344}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969077}{>>154969077}


>I find the bitterness of your response amusing


Soy boy no like rhino getting to close to the car?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969378}{154969378}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968156}{>>154968156}


>MUH MK ULTRA


Go back to \href{https://archive.4plebs.org/x/}{\LR{\Slash{}x\Slash{}}} you insufferable faggot

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969408}{154969408}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968516}{>>154968516}


>you're over weight


He's a modern American


>you delve


Duh\dots{}


>you engage in porn


He's a modern America


>you missed\dots{}


50\Slash{}50 shot


Basically you're cold reading like a faggot. Fuck off CIA nigger.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969467}{154969467}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969314}{>>154969314}


He is a deeply resentful person because of his failures in life.


I bet you Ted would of been a much happier person if he had found a wife before retreating to the solidarity of the woods.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969536}{154969536}


They made a good series about him, it is called the unabomber manhunt i think

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969548}{154969548}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969467}{>>154969467}


\href{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNE-7DyLJ5w}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}www.youtube.com\Slash{}watch?v=ZNE-7DyLJ5w}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969559}{154969559}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154967157}{>>154967157}


>Hidden, saged, not politics.


>not politics


>Guy wrote a political manifesto and was a TERRORIST


>Hidden, saged


>Continues to post in thread, clearly monitoring


You utter faggot.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969579}{154969579}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969378}{>>154969378}


>insufferable


Who are you \dots{} Sylvester the Cat?

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969605}{154969605}


OP here. Henry Murray is also the psychologist who wrote a lengthy government-commissioned report on the psychology of Adolf Hitler to help US leaders "understand" their future enemy.


\hairline


On the rise of psychology and population control



\begin{quote}


The rise of psychology in public policy was, then, yet another manifestation of the culture of despair. Psychological techniques of manipulation were thought to be necessary because people are ruled not by reason, but by dark, inchoate emotions. [\dots{}] Social science was seen as not just a way to understand man, but to control him as well. It would provide the means by which an enlightened elite would encourage proper democratic behavior.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On the CIA experiment Ted became involved in



\begin{quote}


In 1967 [\dots{}] hundreds of college professors on more than a hundred American college campuses were under secret contract to the CIA. [\dots{}] The Harvard study my brother participate in was called "Multiform Assessments of Personality Development among Gifted College Men." It was overseen by the noted psychologist Henry Murray [\dots{}] it is clear that my brother was a guinea pig in an unethical and psychologically damaging research projected conducted by a team of psychological researchers who used deceptive tactics to study the effects of emotional and psychological trauma on unwitting human subjects.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On the history of Henry Murray



\begin{quote}


Murray was part of this drug-testing pyramid. During this time [\dots{}] he had supervised experiments "on the subjective effects of psycho-active drugs, injecting adrenaline [\dots{}] into naive subjects. [\dots{}] we do know that Murray's experiment [\dots{}] was indeed unethical. Like so much research by Cold Warriors of that era, his violated the Nuremberg Code's requirement of "informed consent." [\dots{}] this suave New Yorker, [\dots{}] who boasted aristocratic ancestry, who summered in St. Lawrence, [\dots{}] has been described as leaving friends "bleeding when he left."



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969640}{154969640}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969559}{>>154969559}


CIA niggers fear Ted above all else.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969668}{154969668}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154965937}{>>154965937}



\begin{verse}
not book
\end{verse}


k thx I'll keep listening

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969723}{154969723}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969344}{>>154969344}


I see that transposing thoughts into words is not your thing. That's okay, keep on living in your little walled world you've built with your insecurities. I'm sure you're "enlightened" and everyone else is a fool.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969764}{154969764}


\href{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Q65yNStcM}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}www.youtube.com\Slash{}watch?v=j6Q65yNStcM}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969884}{154969884}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969579}{>>154969579}


>Fat, dumbfuck boomer shows up to \Slash{}pol\Slash{} because someone dropped a reference to the board on one of his Alex Jones\Slash{}illuminati videos on kiketube


>Proceeds to spew 1999 tier conspiracy theories, recycle Breitbart trash, and just shit up the board in general


Why don't you fuck off

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969885}{154969885}


On one of Murray's mistresses recalling the psychologist's personality



\begin{quote}


in 1937, Murray helped Christiana build a stone tower on land she had purchased [\dots{}] It became her retreat and their trysting place, where they explored their subconscious selves in elaborate sadomasochistic rituals [\dots{}] Murray's longtime assistant [\dots{}] told Robinson that "The tower game [Murray] a place that he could put his evil and find it accepted. [\dots{}] Anger, frustration, aggression, hostility, need to punish, need to explode [\dots{}] This was stronger in him that in it is in most people.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Murray's behaviour during the experiments



\begin{quote}


He "took amphetamines and got himself whipped up to the point where he could work," one former colleague observed



\end{quote}


\hairline


On the kinds of students Murray sought for his experiment



\begin{quote}


As Murray put it, they sought to enlist students who were "at the extreme of avowed alienation, lack of identity, pessimism, etc." [\dots{}] researchers picked twenty-two undergraduates [\dots{}] Kaczynski was the only blue-collar boy in the bunch.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Henry Murray's assistant describing the participants



\begin{quote}


According to Keniston, these youths exhibited "a strong sense of cosmic outcastness." They "spent less time with others; are less intimate with them, become less manifestly involved with groups than do many or most of their peers. To all but their closest friends and acquaintances these students are usually known as aloof and rather negativistic, somewhat scornful, unwilling to be drawn into the activities of others



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154969950}{154969950}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969605}{>>154969605}


>it is clear that my brother was a guinea pig in an unethical and psychologically damaging research projected conducted by a team of psychological researchers who used deceptive tactics to study the effects of emotional and psychological trauma on unwitting human subjects


His brother turned him in for distributing revenge on those that tortured him. Thanks bro.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970022}{154970022}


\href{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayfBf2J-Qlc}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}www.youtube.com\Slash{}watch?v=ayfBf2J-Qlc}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970035}{154970035}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969723}{>>154969723}


>I'm sure you're "enlightened" and everyone else is a fool.


Not everyone. Just you retard.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970197}{154970197}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969884}{>>154969884}


Sorry infowars is CIAniggerdom and I aint involved in any CIAniggerdom.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970213}{154970213}


On Ted's distinction among the other participants



\begin{quote}


Kaczynski'[s essay] [\dots{}] revealed him to be the most nihilistic of all the participants. [\dots{}] Murray dubbed Kaczynski, "Lawful" [\dots{}] So, "Lawful" was literally accurate. At the time, Kaczynski was trying hard to be a good boy. There was no outward sign of the rebel in him.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's family's response to him entering the experiment



\begin{quote}


One day our parents received a letter from Harvard. Enclosed was a consent form allowing Ted to participate in a psychological research project. A parent's consent form was required because Ted was still a minor, only seventeen years old, legally barred from providing for himself. Mom's implicit faith in the university prevents her from asking questions. Years later she recalled signing the consent form. "At the time," she said. "I was glad to give my parental consent, feeling that Teddy has some adjustment issues, I hoped these nice psychologists might help him." In doing so she unwittingly committed her son to a regiment of psychological abuse that would span the next three years of his college career.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On the Dyad



\begin{quote}


The centrepiece of the experiments was something Murray called alternatively "stressful disputation", "dyadic interaction," [\dots{}] or simply "the Dyad". [\dots{}] Its intent was to catch the student by surprise, to deceive him, bring him to anger, ridicule his beliefs, and brutalize him. As Murray explained [\dots{}] 'First, you are told [\dots{}] to write a brief exposition of your personal philosophy in life [\dots{}] Second, when you return to the Annex with your finished composition, you are informed that [\dots{}] you and a talented young lawyer will be asked to debate the respective merits of your two philosophies.' [\dots{}] subjects were required to write [\dots{}] [about] a range of subjects from thumb-sucking and toilet training to masturbation and erotic fantasies.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970218}{154970218}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


Interesting thread OP, here's a bump :)

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970332}{154970332}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154964968}{>>154964968}


Bullshit he was the victim of CIA mind control programs\dots{} that's documented FACT

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970336}{154970336}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970197}{>>154970197}


>muh inept government agency wuz omniscient and shiet


Here's a hint, the CIA is fucking incompetent

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970389}{154970389}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970035}{>>154970035}


>Imagine being this cognitively impaired that this would seem like a good response.


I will stop responding to you now, but man you're blatantly stupid and you can't even face it. It is astonishing.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970414}{154970414}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970336}{>>154970336}


t. cia

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970431}{154970431}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


Nice


I remember a thread like this on \Slash{}lit\Slash{} a while back. It was a fascinating read

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970449}{154970449}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969723}{>>154969723}


Go shit up some other thread, CIA nigger.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970452}{154970452}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


If I wrote him a letter would my name get put on all kinds of watch lists?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970471}{154970471}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154965908}{>>154965908}


lol, yea this is a remake.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970523}{154970523}


On the nature of the experimental "debate



\begin{quote}


When the subject arrived for the debate, he was escorted into a "brilliantly lighted room" and seated in front of a one-way mirror. A motion picture camera recorded his every move and facial expression [\dots{}] Electrodes leading to machines then recorded his heart and respiratory rates [\dots{}] the students were tricked. Contrary to what Murray claimed [\dots{}] [a] "well-prepared stooge "[\dots{}] launch[ed] an aggressive attack on his younger victim, for the purpose of upsetting him as much as possible.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On the researchers' relationship with Ted



\begin{quote}


the transcript of one session in which the acting research assistant focused the conversation on my brother's beard, calling it "stupid." [\dots{}] On occasion [Ted] would pass one of the researchers on campus and offer a shy "Hello," to which the psychologists never responded but kept on walking by, as if Ted did not exist. We know that the experiments involved the calculated humiliation of subjects. We know that the basic premise of the research was to study how bright college students would react to aggressive, stressful attacks on their beliefs and values.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On fellow participants' reaction to the experiment



\begin{quote}


most participants found this highly unpleasant, even traumatic. [\dots{}] "Right away" said another, code-named "Trump" [\dots{}] "I didn't like [the interrogator] [\dots{}] he was being sarcastic or pretty much of a wise guy [\dots{}] I kind of sat there and began to fume



\end{quote}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970540}{154970540}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970452}{>>154970452}


Probably, but he would appreciate the shit out of it I imagine, that is if he actually gets it.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970548}{154970548}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970213}{>>154970213}


Interesting how people are describing him as a "good boy" throughout his childhood.


Ted in his manifesto talked a lot of oversocialization. He probably felt oversocialized himself and felt he had to adhere to all of societies expectations of people. Suppressing his natural urges that might contradict those expectations.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970729}{154970729}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970523}{>>154970523}


anybody else here think theyd be able to take this? Psychologists are cargo cult retards and their opinions should have no effect on you


>stressful attacks on their beliefs and values


aka every single day on this website

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970782}{154970782}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970213}{>>154970213}


>Kaczynski was trying hard to be a good boy


Unabomber just wanted his tendies. He was a good boy dindu nuffin

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970896}{154970896}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970336}{>>154970336}


>feign incompetence


That's Art of War 101 ya', dip.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970917}{154970917}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970729}{>>154970729}


>anybody else here think theyd be able to take this?


Yeah, but we have a foundation to fall back on, ie; \Slash{}pol\Slash{}. There's hundreds of thousands of people who reinforce the idea that we're correct, but we have to share truths secretly because they're rejected by the public at large, especially academia. We already expect to be berated by academics, we just all believe they're incorrect, so the element of self-doubt never manifests.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970957}{154970957}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970896}{>>154970896}


How about you read a fucking book instead of regurgitating memes.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154970975}{154970975}


motherfucker was pretty handsome and sharp. It's sad how bullying can push some people over the edge of sanity

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971022}{154971022}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970917}{>>154970917}


based \Slash{}pol\Slash{}


Uncle Ted was wrong about technology

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971057}{154971057}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970729}{>>154970729}


At the young age of 16, no I could not handle such an interrogation. You have to remember these subjects were just kids. One of them ran away to their dorm room during the interrogation and cried his eyes out.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971096}{154971096}


OP here. If you wish to learn more about cover government-sponsored psychological experimentation during the mid-late 20th century I recommend Chapter 18 of Harvard and the Unabomber. I'll just focus on Ted here.


\hairline


On Henry Murray's other "experiments" at the time



\begin{quote}


Murray served as adviser on a U.S. Army project conducted at Boston's Peter Bent Brigham and Robert Breck Brigham hospitals, in which patients were given experimental doses of the steroids ACTH and cortisone to determine their "pharmacological effect." "A certain number of patients," the team later reported, "had become psychotic or otherwise emotionally disturbed in response to treatment with these drugs



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's memories of the experiments he was involved in



\begin{quote}


When my brother's federal public defenders asked him about the Murray experiments, he characterized his participation as "the worst experience of my life".



\end{quote}


\hairline


On why Ted decided not to quit the experiment



\begin{quote}


In that case, Ted, why didn't you quit? Why did you keep going back to the lab, week after week for three years? "I wanted to prove that I could take it," Ted explained. "That I couldn't be broken.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971300}{154971300}


On Ted’s isolation throughout his years in college



\begin{quote}


His adolescence and college years were marked by an almost total absence of interpersonal relationships. Early psychological testing showed an extreme elevation on the introversion scale and associated depressive feelings that would be consistent with his alienation at that point in time. [\dots{}] Mr. Kaczynski recounts, in painful detail, his absence of any real or personal relationships with women, in addition to his absence of any consistent ongoing relationships with men



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted’s hatred and desire to incite rebellion



\begin{quote}


Mr. Kaczynski claimed in his writing, that during his college years he had fantasies of living a primitive life and fantasized himself as "an agitator, rousing mobs to frenzies of revolutionary violence." He claims that during that time he started to think about breaking away from normal society. He describes that beginning in college he began to worry about his health in particular ways, always having a fear that a symptom could result in something serious. He also claims that during high school and college he would often become terribly angry because he could not express that anger or hatred openly.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's underwhelming post-graduate experience in Michigan



\begin{quote}


He found the teaching experience difficult and the quality of the program not to his liking. [\dots{}] he also describes having virtually no social life there [\dots{}] He began to experience difficulty with the noise from the other rooms, particularly the sounds resulting from sexual activity of other renters. He reported the noises he heard in the house to the University System, with the hope that action would be taken against Mr. (REDACTED).



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971389}{154971389}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154967279}{>>154967279}


Fuck you you subhuman retard


Holy fuck just put a JHP in your fucking brain


Ted was indeed a CIA mind control victim where LSD was used. Very real

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971404}{154971404}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970389}{>>154970389}


>I will stop responding to you now, but man you're blatantly stupid


Well then I will get the last word in since I have landed on aircraft carriers 500 more times than you and I feel that you would pee your pants if you ever attempted to try it.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971407}{154971407}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970957}{>>154970957}


I read the Art of War, which states feigning incompetence is a key to strategic victory; maybe you should read that book, ya' double dip.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971463}{154971463}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


Bee You Em Pee

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971472}{154971472}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971404}{>>154971404}


What did you fly?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971587}{154971587}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963764}{>>154963764}


>Polish working-class


jewish brainwashing confirmed

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971591}{154971591}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154967279}{>>154967279}


He’s correct you dunce.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971626}{154971626}


OP here. The third quotation here is from Ted's autobiography "Truth Versus Lies" and has bee mentioned by various people who read it.


\hairline


On the way Ted's peers and the students he taught perceived him



\begin{quote}


People who had known Ted as a boy, as a high school and college student, as a professor at Berkeley [\dots{}] have drawn a picture of a man whose life seemed destined to be torn apart [\dots{}] It is a funereal portrait of loneliness, obsession and contradictions [\dots{}] then total retreat from society; a concern for humanity and nature that led finally, officials say, to a one-man war against technology, and the cold calculation of the death of strangers.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's behaviour in Michigan



\begin{quote}


Kaczynski "works almost entirely on his own," Shields commented [\dots{}] "I rarely saw him. He believes in doing everything himself, and he dislikes learning and applying elaborate machinery developed by other people. [\dots{}] Duren observed that Kaczynski, "a loner," was "a very serious person, not one to get involved in bull sessions."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's brief desire to change genders



\begin{quote}


In the summer after his fourth year, he describes experiencing a period of several weeks where he was sexually excited nearly all the time and was fantasizing himself as a woman and being unable to obtain any sexual relief. He decided to make an effort to have a sex change operation. When he returned to the University of Michigan he made an appointment to see a psychiatrist to be examined to determine if the sex change would be good for him. [\dots{}] As he was sitting in the waiting room, he turned completely against the idea of the operation and thus, when he saw the doctor, instead claimed he was depressed about the possibility of being drafted. He describes the following, "As I walked away from the building afterwards, I felt disgusted about what my uncontrolled sexual cravings had almost led me to do and I felt humiliated, and I violently hated the psychiatrist.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971699}{154971699}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971721}{154971721}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971472}{>>154971472}


Two engine fixed wing I would rather not specify\dots{} mostly Japan and CA but lots in gulf and elsewhere

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971764}{154971764}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968156}{>>154968156}


This is absolutely true. Either big ego faggots who haven't done research are shitting on this or legit gov shills who still try to control the narrative

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971794}{154971794}


On Ted's time teaching at Berkeley



\begin{quote}


In late 1967, Kaczynski became an assistant professor of mathematics at the University of California, Berkeley, where he taught undergraduate courses in geometry and calculus. He was also noted as the youngest professor ever hired by the university, but this position proved short-lived. Kaczynski received numerous complaints and low ratings from the undergraduates he taught. Many students noted that he seemed quite uncomfortable in a teaching environment, often stuttering and mumbling during lectures, becoming excessively nervous in front of a class, and ignoring students during designated office hours.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's teaching strategy at Berkeley



\begin{quote}


My college professor took his math class. He said that on day one he walked in the classroom wrote some complicated ass problem on the board and told the class that they had till the final to solve it to pass the course. Then he left.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's aversion to the "hippy" movement at Berkeley



\begin{quote}


Ted had also been a young professor at Berkeley, a hotbed of radicalism during the '60's , a time of social and political turmoil. Ted's alienation from "the alienated generation" recalled Bob Dylan's line "He was always on the outside of whatever side there was." So I wouldn't have expected Ted to get cozy with left-wing environmentalists.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's resignation from his college job



\begin{quote}


While Ted Kaczynski never showed any strong feelings about the activism around him, the campus riots and protests must have had a significant impact on the young academic. [\dots{}] On January 20th 1969, the young professor wrote a terse, two sentence letter of resignation from his post at Berkeley University [\dots{}] A close friend of Kaczynski's father, child psychologist Ralph K. Meister, claimed it was young Ted's fear that his students would become makers of atomic bombs that prompted him to resign.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971799}{154971799}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154966465}{>>154966465}


Paste bin so it is legible

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971931}{154971931}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971626}{>>154971626}


>Ted the Tranny


pls no

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971938}{154971938}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968935}{>>154968935}


This.. why the fuck hasn't OP talked about his CIA involvement

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971950}{154971950}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971591}{>>154971591}


He knows\dots{} he is just a shill.


Clues about what DARPA and NIH shit they did to Ted\dots{}


What did Aaron A write on his gun?


What was James H excuse after Aurora\dots{} he said they did something to him while studying neurology at NIH


What did Myron say on youtubes


What did puerto rican ANG ft lauderdale guy report CIA was doing to him in Alaska


What this year did us state dept employees say was happening in cuba


What happened to us embassy personnel in moscow between 1953 and 1976


Why were they evacuated in 1976


Did the ambassador die of cancer shortly after the attacks?


What is rep gabby gifford shooter claim in court

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154971996}{154971996}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971931}{>>154971931}


He rallied. Shame that he didn't have \Slash{}pol\Slash{} to steer him straight before it manifested into action.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972007}{154972007}


On Ted's leaving Berkeley and moving back to his parents' home



\begin{quote}


In the summer of 1969, at the age of 27, Mr. Kaczynski left Berkeley, determined to seek a simpler life in a remote area. [\dots{}] Living again at home, Mr. Kaczynski kept mostly to his bedroom. Awaiting word on his land application, he did nothing for more than a year. His parents urged him to get a job, not to make money but to give him something to do, to ease his mind. But the effort failed. Investigators who had access to letters Mr. Kaczynski wrote later said the parents' efforts were interpreted by their brooding son as unwarranted intrusions, pressure to conform to a world he hated.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's family reacting to his resignation



\begin{quote}


Ted expected our parents to be angry about his decision to quit his career. On the contrary, they were cautiously supportive. After Ted and I left home, they respected our personal decisions. Privately, though, Mom expressed concern: "Dave," she confided,"I don't think Teddy's decision really has much to do with technology. I'm worried that he doesn't know how to accept other people or be accepted by them. I'm afraid he's running away from a society he doesn't know how to relate to.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's growing distaste for society in his late 20's



\begin{quote}


He was still smart, independent, and principled. There was also, by this time, a kind of despondency in him that I found very poignant. He didn't seem to want any of the things that most people crave: being loved and admired; having money, comfort, or world success. In his humility and integrity, he resembled the saints of old - except that his asceticism was completely disconnected from faith, love, or hope. On the contrary, it seemed haunted by defeatism. I also sensed that he expected me to live the same way and to share his deeply pessimistic views.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972061}{154972061}


>muh MK ULTRA


>muh Mily Cyrus clone mind op


You're a dipshit that attributes experimentation and desired outcome to results. You don't know how the world works, you just attribute everything to le CIA boogeyman like a good like faggot.


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971407}{>>154971407}


Where in The Art of War is the section for butchering everything you touch or are remotely involved in?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972071}{154972071}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154964968}{>>154964968}


>he went nutty because of his isolation.


>the CIA electroshock "therapy" didn't affect him at all


the fuck is wrong with you

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972108}{154972108}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971764}{>>154971764}


I don't get why anyone would have a big ego about Ted\dots{}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972120}{154972120}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971950}{>>154971950}


And by the way James was a drop off at Aurora


Columbine kids snapped from the torture\dots{}


James did not comply

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972204}{154972204}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971938}{>>154971938}


OP here. If you keep reading the thread your frustration will be abated.


\hairline


On Ted's early writings opposing technology



\begin{quote}


He also wrote two letters to The Chicago Tribune, one on snowmobiles, the other on motorcycles. He denounced both as noisy, air-polluting machines that spoiled the beauties of nature [\dots{}] "Technology exacerbates the effects of crowding because it puts increased disruptive powers in people's hands. For example, a variety of noise-making devices: power mowers, radios, motorcycles, etc. If the use of these devices is unrestricted, people who want peace and quiet are frustrated by the noise."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's disappearance from Illinois



\begin{quote}


Ted's high school classmate, Bill Widlacki, heard that he was back in Illinois doing menial work. "Then, all of a sudden," Widlacki says, "he disappeared."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted leaving his parents' home suddenly after a year spent unemployed in his old room



\begin{quote}


Dave, have you seen Ted?" Dad asked. He sounded worried. [\dots{}] He left us a goodbye note." Pause. "He said he was sorry if he'd failed us. He said we shouldn't have any regrets because we were good parents. Dave, I had this uneasy feeling that your brother left in a very bad state in mind. His goodbye sounded so final - almost like a suicide note.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972277}{154972277}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154972061}{>>154972061}


Provide proof of your claims and remember that the only things we hear about are their failures. This is the nature of the clandestine services.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972305}{154972305}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971950}{>>154971950}


>Tell me more Q!

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972343}{154972343}


quality bread

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972386}{154972386}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968826}{>>154968826}


>>"The suitemates also remember Ted's housekeeping. "His room was an unholy mess, the worst mess I've ever seen in my life," MacIntosh says.


That's what happends if you don't CLEAN YOUR ROOM. You delve into chaos. Then you start sending mailbombs to people. That's not a place you want to be in. Seriously not good.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972390}{154972390}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154972061}{>>154972061}


>dipshit


Literally my favorite word too bad you are a shill you are funny. Why dont you quit the CIA and switch over to FBI before you get a boot on your leg?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972405}{154972405}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154972061}{>>154972061}


>You're a dipshit that attributes experimentation and desired outcome to results.


>run MK-ULTRA on a guy


>he writes a PHD dissertation on the negative effects of technology on humanity and bombs random technologists


>desired outcome


>results


nobody in this thread said the CIA was competent

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972447}{154972447}


\Slash{}POL\Slash{} MUST-WATCH


\href{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr5M6oEx2j4}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}www.youtube.com\Slash{}watch?v=wr5M6oEx2j4}


>The Net: The Unabomber, LSD and the Internet


The last interview kek, (((David Gelernter))) has some reason to be pissed since Ted blew his hand off, but he gets so fucking sanctimonious\dots{} utter kikery

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972513}{154972513}


On Ted building his cabin



\begin{quote}


It took me from the beginning of July 1971 until I think late November. But the work was interrupted by some trips I made to Great Falls for various purposes. Much more important, it was interrupted when I scalded my foot. On August 1st, 1971, I was so clumsy as to knock over a pot of boiling soup. It poured right down into my sneaker and scalded my foot so badly that, on doctor’s orders, I remained inactive for about 5 or 5 1\Slash{}2 weeks.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted going to live with his brother in Montana



\begin{quote}


Ted lived in a tent on their property in Stemple Pass. He built his plywood cabin. Part of the time, however, he stayed with David. He worked for two weeks at Kibbey Corner Truck Stop, owned by Joe Visocan, in Raynesford, population 50, about 35 miles east of Great Falls.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted’s job at a truck stop in Montana



\begin{quote}


In the late summer of 1974, Ted also pumped gas and sold tires for a few weeks at Kibbey Korner Truck Stop in Raynesford [\dots{}] . It was a drifter's job -- a bunk went with it -- and no one held it for long [\dots{}] Ted's brief sojourn in Raynesford was also notable for a crude romantic overture he made to a 19-year-old college student who was working as a waitress in the truck-stop restaurant [\dots{}] To the waitress, Sandra Hill, he was just a shy, clean-shaven co-worker, a dozen years her senior. She said she had paid him little attention, and had no idea he was interested in her until she went back to school that fall and received three letters from him. One invited her to move with him to northern Canada and be his squaw.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted describing his ideal society to his brother



\begin{quote}


Once, invoking his vision of an ideal society, he described to me hunter-gatherer communities based on reciprocity and trust - "You know [\dots{}] like our family.”



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972568}{154972568}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154972386}{>>154972386}


This Peterson is only nodding in self satisfaction as another messy room dweller loses his soul to the underworld.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972627}{154972627}


On Ted resigning from his job at a truck stop



\begin{quote}


His letter of resignation, published by the Great Falls Tribune, said



\end{quote}



\begin{quote}


Dear, sweet Joe:



\begin{quote}


You fat con man. You probably think I treated you badly by quitting without notice, but it's your own fault. You gave me this big cock-and-bull story about how much money I could make selling tires and all that crap. 'The sky's the limit,' and so forth. If you had been honest with me, I would not have taken the job in the first place; but if I had taken it, I wouldn't have quit without giving you a couple of weeks' notice. Anyhow, I have a check coming. I am enclosing a stamped, self-addressed envelope in which you can send it. I had better get that check, because I know what authorities to complain to if I don't get it. If I have to complain about the check, then, while I'm at it, I might as well complain about the fact that you don't have a proper cage for putting air in split-rim tires, which, if I am not mistaken, is illegal.



\begin{quote}


Love and kisses,



\begin{quote}


Ted Kaczynski



\end{quote}


\hairline



\end{quote}



\end{quote}



\end{quote}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972719}{154972719}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154972513}{>>154972513}


>One invited her to move with him to northern Canada and be his squaw


Based Ted, squawin up dem hoes

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154972807}{154972807}


On Ted working at a factory with his brother



\begin{quote}


Teddy and I worked briefly at the same factory [\dots{}]. At first my brother appeared to be in love (which I noted with pleasant amazement, since my brother had never dated or even talked much about women). He took the girl out for dinner at nice restaurants and for walks in the forest preserve. But he was utterly devastated when she politely broke off their relationship, saying she only wanted to be friends.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On further details regarding his attempt at dating his female co-worker



\begin{quote}


His supervisor was Ellen Tarmichael, a soft-spoken but no-nonsense woman [\dots{}] Ted Kaczynski became interested in late July 1978. He was 36, and she was 29. [\dots{}] They had two dates, Ms. Tarmichael recalled. She said he seemed intelligent and quiet, and she accepted a dinner invitation in late July. It was a French restaurant, David said, and Ted "ordered wine and he smelled it, he made a big deal of it." David added, "He had a good time." [\dots{}] Two weeks later, they went apple-picking and afterward went to his parents' home and baked a pie. That was when she told him she did not want to see him again. "I felt we didn't have much in common besides our employment," she said. "Ted did a total shutdown," retreating into his room [\dots{}] He also wrote an insulting limerick about Ms. Tarmichael, made copies and posted them in lavatories and on walls around the factory. He did not sign the limerick, but his relationship with the woman was known.



\end{quote}


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On Ted's memory of his failed relationship



\begin{quote}


He remembers contemplating suicide by hanging at that time, and then describes that he became full of rage and instead decided to take a knife and mutilate the woman. He proceeded to the parking lot at the work site and got into her car. At that time he changed his mind and again felt very sad.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154973108}{154973108}


OP here. I should point out here that Ted also wrote a second letter to Ms. Carmichael apologizing for his anger in his first letter to her, and wished her well. I would quote but can't find it at the moment.


\hairline


On Ted's first letter to the woman who rejected him



\begin{quote}


Dear Ellen, [\dots{}] When I talked to you in your car [\dots{}] you said that when you went out with me the first two times, you "really thought there might be something in it; friendship, or\dots{}" I seriously doubt whether your statement is true [\dots{}] Nevertheless, this statement is probably the only thing that prevented me from attacking you physically.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On David's reaction to his brother's failed relationship



\begin{quote}


the next day when Ted posted another of the nasty limericks, I went to the plant's supervisor and had my brother dismissed. [\dots{}] Only after my anger cooled did it sink in how much my brother must have craved an intimate relationship and how unequal he was to the challenge of being in one.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's response to being dismissed after insulting his female co-worker



\begin{quote}


Ted locked himself in his room at Mom and Dad's for three days. [\dots{}] After three days, however, Ted emerged from his room and abruptly asked me to read a long letter he had written, on condition that I never speak with him about it. The letter was more explanation than apology; its apologetic elements were tainted with self-justification. Essentially, what he wanted to communicate was that he had been deeply and desperately lonely for a very long time.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154973197}{154973197}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968798}{>>154968798}


>tailhook


Oh, I've heard about you all.


\emph{slowly backs out of room with anus covered}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154973248}{154973248}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154972277}{>>154972277}


>the only things we hear about are their failures


The entirety of US foreign policy is a failure. How about the presidential candidate that was backed by over a billion dollars, the gulf states, and the entirety of the established 3 letter agencies crashing and burning. How did a 1st generation sandnigger with ties to the taliban establish contact with them while in the US, travel to AFG, come back and successfully carryout a 50 faggot massacre in an election orbiting around "immigration and xenophobia" under a democratic administration? How did an Egyptian shitskin end up in a position to train soldiers at the JFKSWCS while driving to Jersey on the weekend to train more sandniggers for the millenium bombing?


Because they don't know what the fuck they're doing. You have no fucking clue who these people are. You think they're these slick dudes in suits, but they are literally trannies and affirmative action hires now.


\href{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali\_Mohamed}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}en.wikipedia.org\Slash{}wiki\Slash{}Ali\_Mohamed}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154973475}{154973475}


Why has no one here mentioned his latest and very relevant book Anti Tech Revolution: Why and How?

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154973481}{154973481}


On Ted’s struggles to view himself as attractive



\begin{quote}


He describes at length his inability to figure out whether or not he was attractive to women and references a passing comment of a friend of his family's at the age of 15, that made him believe he was quite attractive. [\dots{}] At times in his writings, he focuses, in an extraordinary amount of detail, on passing or short lived relationships or potential relationships with females. This is illustrated by his discussion of his relationships with (REDACTED) when he was 10, (REDACTED) when he was 16, (REDACTED) when he was 17, (REDACTED) when he was 32, "Ms. Z" when he was in graduate school, and (REDACTED) when he was 36.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's romantic \Slash{} sexual experiences



\begin{quote}


aside from his mother, who doted on him as a boy, there appears to have been no substantive relationship with a woman in all his life



\end{quote}


\hairline


On the court psychiatrist's view of Ted's relationship issues



\begin{quote}


it is evident that he has repeatedly developed idealized romantic attachments to women with whom he has little familiarity or contact. These women, for the most part, are unaware of the degree of his attachment. That he has maintained these idealized attachment over extended periods of time, is outlined extensively in his writings. It appears that the onset of this disorder for Mr. Kaczynski was in his early 20s. It is likely that for many years he has intermittently experienced exacerbations in the intensity of this disorder. Those periods have been preceded by prodromal symptoms of depressed mood, insomnia, increased distractibility, and intensification of sexual identity problems.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's letters to a penpal at the time



\begin{quote}


The letters show a disgruntled employee, a spurned suitor awkward with women, a son bitter toward his mother for making him that way, and a helpful fellow gardener.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154973646}{154973646}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968516}{>>154968516}


>You engage in porn


LOL


Porn is used by billions in functioning societies. Porn is illegal in nations with the highest levels of rape, like India. Are you trying to make us a poo-land, you DoD crack-smoker?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154973821}{154973821}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154972061}{>>154972061}


obvious shilling is obvious dude.. just stop. save your energy for another thread

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154973824}{154973824}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154973646}{>>154973646}


>used by billions in functioning societies


That's a broad acceptance of what "functioning" is.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154973874}{154973874}


Is there any proof on mkultra? Sounds like a video game fantasy to me\dots{}

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154973936}{154973936}


On Ted's hesitance to leave society for good



\begin{quote}


When people ask about my plans, I say something vague about Canada or Alaska, but really I have little enthusiasm for any such project. [\dots{}] it is getting harder and harder to escape civilisation. At the cost of considerable effort I might still find a corner for myself somewhere - but then after a few years I would probably have to watch it being ruined by airplanes, snowmobiles, recreationists, etc. [\dots{}] Since I can never feel that there is anything worth while in the kind of existence provided by modern civilisation, this leaves me with a very empty prospect in life and nothing to look forward to. It would have been very comfortable to have something to put into this vacuum such as the affection a woman.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's various unskilled labour jobs in his early 30's



\begin{quote}


He estimated that it generally cost him less that \$400 a year to live, after he became established in his routine. [\dots{}] Intermittently, he worked to obtain needed money, which included employment in the fall of 1972 and spring of 1973 in masonry and groundskeeping jobs. [\dots{}] During the period of late 1972 until December 1973, Mr. Kaczynski worked at a variety of jobs in Chicago and Salt Lake City, Utah.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's letter to his brother upon leaving society



\begin{quote}


I recalled a letter I had received from Ted [\dots{}] At the top of the page was taped a small picture cut out from the newspaper of a young boy in a baseball cap grinning happily. Beneath the picture, Ted wrote a message that was uncharacteristically unsentimental. "Dear Dave, This picture reminds me of you when you were young. You were always such a cheerful, happy kid. I, on the other hand, have never been happy. I've never even had a close friend. I want you to know, in case anything happens to me, that you are the one person that I've ever loved.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974048}{154974048}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154973481}{>>154973481}


>Not understanding how humans work and that he just had to stop being a creep for him to have relationship


Either you hate society and you stop caring for the lack of attention it gives to you, or you understand how society works so you can fit in and get the attention you need

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974117}{154974117}


man, this story is too depressive to read. Fuck that, i'm out

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974162}{154974162}


On the region in Lincoln, Montana where Ted lived



\begin{quote}


His small acreage and one-room, 12-by-10-foot primitive cabin, with a wood stove but no electricity, was on a jumping off spot to an isolated primeval world of rippling streams, westslope cutthroat trout, mule deer and regal elk. Parts of this world haven't seen a human soul since the last of the gold miners deserted their sluice boxes in the late 1920s. [\dots{}] For a hermit-like man looking for total isolation, this was the spot.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's early hikes in Montana



\begin{quote}


In 1974, Ted Kaczynski hiked to the top of Red Mountain, which towers more than 9,000 feet outside of Lincoln. It was, Kaczynski wrote, the "highest altitude I've ever been at." Once on the summit, though, he made a discovery that upset the former math professor and future Unabomber. "Was disappointed to find a jar up there with pieces of paper in it with the signature and inane comments of various people who've hiked up there in the last year or so," Kaczynski wrote[\dots{}]. "I took all of the pieces of paper to use as kindling, except one, on which I wrote, '[expletive] you all.' I signed it 'Jesus Christ.'”



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's life in his cabin



\begin{quote}


The furnishings were the fragments of his life: the books for companionship and the bunk for the lonely hours, the wood stove where night after night he watched dying embers flicker visions of a wretched humanity



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974241}{154974241}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970452}{>>154970452}


They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother. Write Uncle Ted a letter. I'll write him one too.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974325}{154974325}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154973874}{>>154973874}


Very real


\href{https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-we-know-about-cias-midcentury-mind-control-project-180962836/}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}www.smithsonianmag.com\Slash{}smart-news\Slash{}what-we-know-about-cias-midcentury-mind-control-project-180962836\Slash{}}


Or read the Search for the Manchurian Candidate by john marks. Real project but theres a lot of bullshit accreted around it.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974357}{154974357}


Was Uncle Ted the very first case of weaponized autism?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974402}{154974402}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970452}{>>154970452}


I figure we're already on all kinds of lists just for being on \Slash{}pol\Slash{}


if this were actually a free country we wouldn't have to worry about shit like that

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974456}{154974456}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154974357}{>>154974357}


undoubtedly

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974481}{154974481}


On Ted avoiding employment in Montana



\begin{quote}


To my knowledge Ted worked only two, short-lived jobs in all the years he lived in Lincoln. When he first moved to Florence Gulch he cut posts to sell at a local post-and-pole manufacturing operation [\dots{}] his second bit of employment was peeling logs for Butch Gehring during the mid-'80s, a pretty strenuous job of skinning the bark off with a drawknife [\dots{}] Ted didn't last more than a couple of hours before he walked off the job, saying that peeling logs wasn't for him.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's thoughts about being unemployed



\begin{quote}


One thing that our society demands is that you have a recognized place in the system. By quitting my job, I've made myself again an outcast, a good-for-nothing, a bum - someone whom "respectable" people can't view without a certain element of suspicion. I can't feel comfortable in this respect until I get away into the hills again - away from society. Besides, in quitting I feel as if I have signed my own death-warrant.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted adapting to his rural environment



\begin{quote}


It just didn't seem to matter to him, the cold, the physical work, the inconvenience, anything. If he were caught too far from his campsite or either cabin he would just roll up in his coat - no matter where he was, at the edge of a meadow or in the trees - lie down and spend the night.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's lack of mail in Montana



\begin{quote}


I brought up the subject that all the junk mail was a huge waste of resources, and a nuisance to boot. Ted said he never received any junk mail. In fact, he seldom received any mail at all. There were many times I gave him a ride to his cabin from town; I'd usually let him off at his mailbox. Most of the time he wouldn't even open it. [\dots{}] The more I thought about it the more I began to realize just how invisible he as in Lincoln.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974529}{154974529}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154965128}{>>154965128}



\begin{quote}


Please remember that you must never abandon your brother, because that's what he fears most



\end{quote}


the feels never end . . .

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974663}{154974663}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970917}{>>154970917}


The BLACKED threads and other constant undermine threads are taking their toll on my psyche

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974693}{154974693}


On one of Ted's favorite writers at the time



\begin{quote}


He was particularly fond of the Uruguyan writer Horacio Quiroga - at least two of whose works he liked so much he translated them into English. [\dots{}] one of these favorites [\dots{}] was "Juan Darien." The title character is a shy and studious boy, taunted by classmates for his rough hair and shynes. But actually, he's a tiger in human form. Teased beyond endurance, he renounces his humanity and takes revenge on a cat tame [\dots{}] watching with the other tigers, as the man is burnt to a crisp.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On the types of books Ted bought in Montana



\begin{quote}


Across the street at Aunt Bonnie's Bookstore, Mr. Kaczynski would stop to buy a book from the 25-cent rack, said Anne Haire, the owner. They were usually old, obscure sociology or political science texts, she said, "the books nobody else wants to buy."



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's mode of transport in Montana



\begin{quote}


At times Ted's bike chain would squeak so loudly I don't know how he could stand it. Whenever he rode up Stemple past my home and I was out in the yard, I could hear him coming long before I'd see him. Since he was afraid of our dogs, his pedalling, speed and squeaking would pick up tempo as he neared my driveway, until it reached a frenzied pace.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's run-in with a mule



\begin{quote}


One day as Ted rode from his home cabin down along the fence line on the south end of the field, the mule trotted over and began to chase him. Ted tried to outrun the mule, but the critter was faster and started to catch up. While looking over his shoulder to see how fast the mule was gaining, Ted hit a hole in the road and piled up his bike. Bitch and a couple of friends who were watching laughed, but Ted wasn't amused.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974705}{154974705}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970540}{>>154970540}


watch this documentary \href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154972447}{>>154972447}


the guy who made it wrote a letter to uncle Ted and they had a whole exchange. He even wrote the guy in German, just to train his language skills. Based genius.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974746}{154974746}


Bump

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974835}{154974835}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969605}{>>154969605}


I wonder how far those psychological techniques have progressed since then.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974850}{154974850}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154973248}{>>154973248}


You only see their failures.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974851}{154974851}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970523}{>>154970523}


>Code named "Trump


Wut

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154974970}{154974970}


On Ted's diet in Montana



\begin{quote}


Between 1975 and 1983 I would buy flour, rice, rolled oats, sugar, cornmeal, cooking oil, and powdered milk, and a modest amount of canned fruit and\Slash{}or tomatoes for the winter. I would eat maybe one can every other day through the cold season. I would eat a small amount of canned fish and dried fruit. Other than that almost everything I ate was wild or grown in my garden. I ate deer, elk, snowshoe hare, pine squirrel, three kinds of grouse, and porcupines, and occasionally ducks, rockchucks, muskrats, packrats, weasels, coyotes, an owl killed by accident—I would never kill an owl intentionally—deer mice, and grasshoppers, huckleberries, soapberries, red twinberries, black twinberries, gooseberries, two kinds of black currants, raspberries, strawberries, Oregon grapes, choke cherries, and rose hips. Starchy roots I ate were camas, yampa, bitterroot and Lomatium, also sprint beauty\dots{} I also ate a few minor kinds of roots and a couple of dozen kinds of wild greens. During May and June, before each meal I would eat a salad, often quite a large salad, by just strolling around my property, picking a bit of this and that, and popping it into my mouth. In a few cases I ground up edible seeds and used them for bread. But grinding them was excessively time consuming. I had no hand-mill, and ground them on a rock. In my garden I grew potatoes, parsnips, beets, onions, two kinds of carrots, spinach, radishes, broccoli, and on occasion orach, Jerusalem artichoke, and turnips. [\dots{}] In the winters I used to use a tea made from the needles of Douglas fir as a source of vitamin C.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's go-to fertilizer



\begin{quote}


what is your special method of fertilizing beets? I used to fertilize mine with shit - my own shit. I don't know whether it improved the taste, but anyway it worked.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975031}{154975031}


Great thread OP.


Mushrooms >> LSD

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975159}{154975159}


On Ted's recommended reading for the self-sufficient



\begin{quote}


There are many good books that will tell you which wild plants are good to eat. For example, Wild Edible Plants of the Western United States, by Donald Kirk. [\dots{}] Merritt Lyndon Fernald and Alfred Charles Kinsey, Edible Wild Plants of Eastern North America [\dots{}] Another book that you might find useful: Stalking the Wild Asparagus, by Euell Gibbons. [\dots{}] If you want to build a log cabin you may find it useful to consult The Book of Camping and Woodcraft by Horace Kephart.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On the contrast between the city and the wild



\begin{quote}


The more intimate you become with nature, the more you appreciate its beauty. It’s a beauty that consists not only in sights and sounds but in an appreciation of\dots{}the whole thing. I don’t know how to express it. What is significant is that when you live in the woods, rather than just visiting them, the beauty becomes a part of your life rather than something you just look at from the outside. Related to this, part of the intimacy with nature that you acquire, is the sharpening of your senses. Not that your hearing or eyesight become more acute, but you notice things more. In city life you tend to be turned inward, in a way. Your environment is crowded with irrelevant sights and sounds, and you get conditioned to block most of them out of your consciousness. In the woods you get so that your awareness is turned outward, toward your environment, hence you are much more conscious of what goes on around you.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975197}{154975197}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154974850}{>>154974850}


What are there success you retard? The survive by throwing ridiculous amounts of money at people for information and influence. The physical aspect of the tradecraft is dead and outdated. If you want to know who's calling the shots, follow the NSA, DIA, and JSOC. You idiots don't know what you're talking about, you just post trash and circlejerk eachother off with literal schitzos like the boomer poster in this thread.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975209}{154975209}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154973874}{>>154973874}


Bill clinton publicly apologised for MK ultra.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975379}{154975379}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154974851}{>>154974851}


Trump is deep state confirmed.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975387}{154975387}


On the interior of Ted's cabin



\begin{quote}


Joe Youderian, set foot in the cabin in 1990 and glimpsed the spare life of Ted Kaczynski: A bed with rumpled covers, two chairs, a small table, a few trunks, a Coleman gas stove, a nail on the back of the door from which to hang a coat, and lots of books, including much classical literature, such as Shakespeare and Thackeray.



\end{quote}


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On Ted writing his predictions for society in his journal



\begin{quote}


He wrote in his journal about him not fitting into organized society and not wanting to fit into it, and seeking avenues of escape from it. In his words [\dots{}] "True I would not fit into the present society in any case but that is not an intolerable situation. What makes a situation intolerable is the fact that in all probability, the values that I detest, will soon be achieved through science, an utterly complete and permanent victory throughout the whole world, with a total extrication of everything I value. Through super human computers and mind control there simply will be no place for a rebellious person to hide and my kind of people will vanish forever from the earth. It's not merely the fact that I cannot fit into society that has induced me to rebel, as violently as I have, it is the fact that I can see society made possible by science inexorably imposing on me."



\end{quote}


\hairline

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975506}{154975506}


On boredom



\begin{quote}


one learns that boredom is a disease of civilization. It seems to me that what boredom mostly is is that people have to keep themselves entertained or occupied, because if they aren’t, then certain anxieties, frustrations, discontents, and so forth, start coming to the surface, and it makes them uncomfortable. Boredom is almost nonexistent once you’ve become adapted to life in the woods. If you don’t have any work that needs to be done, you can sit for hours at a time just doing nothing, just listening to the birds or the wind or the silence, watching the shadows move as the sun travels, or simply looking at familiar objects. And you don’t get bored. You’re just at peace.



\end{quote}


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On the importance of purpose



\begin{quote}


Another thing I learned was the importance of having purposeful work to do. I mean really purposeful work—life-and-death stuff. I didn’t truly realize what life in the woods was all about until my economic situation was such that I had to hunt, gather plants, and cultivate a garden in order to eat. [\dots{}] There is nothing more satisfying than the fulfillment and self-confidence that this kind of self-reliance brings. In connection with this, one loses most of one’s fear of death. In living close to nature, one discovers that happiness does not consist in maximizing pleasure. It consists in tranquility. Once you have enjoyed tranquility long enough, you acquire actually an aversion to the thought of any very strong pleasure—excessive pleasure would disrupt your tranquility.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975542}{154975542}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154975197}{>>154975197}


>If you want to know who's calling the shots, follow the NSA


Is that you Snowden?


Muh NSA is bad \dots{} now dont lase me into seizures anymore CIA see there I keep saying it.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975564}{154975564}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154974325}{>>154974325}


After reading this, I'm wondering is it possible the CIA is still abusing human rights?

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975698}{154975698}


On modern men



\begin{quote}


What every woman wants is a Man, with a capital M. In other words, a man who has balls, not merely in the literal sense but also in the figurative sense. In Western culture, a woman's ideal has traditionally been "a knight in shining armor." [\dots{}] But the knight in shining armor no longer exists in Europe. The samurai has disappeared from Japan. The fierce nomad no longer rides across the Eurasian steppe. [\dots{}] And who has replaced these true Men? Behold modern man (small m): He sits all day on his fat bottom, punching keys on a computer. Terrified of losing the "job" on which he is helplessly dependent, he cringes before his boss, invents petty subterfuges and little lies to conceal his errors and his trivial misdeeds. There are no true Men left; or rather, such true Men as remain are in prison. [\dots{}] Is it any wonder that feminist[s] have lost respect for men? Or that they resent men for failing to be Men after whom (however vehemently they deny it) their hearts yearn?



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's regular visits to the local library in Montana



\begin{quote}


More often, he stopped at the Lincoln Library where Beverly Coleman worked. "Sometimes he came in once a week because we saved newspapers for him and he picked them all up," she said. "Just our local tribunes, from Missoula and Great Falls and Helena." He also wanted scientific books and classic literature, she said, usually in English, but often in the original German or Spanish. These had to be ordered from the University of Montana in Missoula, or Montana State at Bozeman.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Lincoln residents' memory of Ted



\begin{quote}


He was a really strange man," Orr added. "He left people alone and people left him alone." [\dots{}] Beverly Coleman used to work in the Lincoln Library where she remembers Kaczynski spent a lot of time and carried books home in saddlebags that straddled his bike. [\dots{}] "A sharp man," she said. "But he was very quiet. A very gentle man.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975899}{154975899}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154975916}{154975916}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154975564}{>>154975564}


They absolutely are. What about all the people who got murdered\Slash{}starved\Slash{}tortured during the various CIA 'regime changes?


Ted was right.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154976027}{154976027}


On Ted contrasting his life in Montana to life in civilization



\begin{quote}


It's not a question of preserving my life and health; getting out of the power and civilization has long since become an end in itself for me. By now I have practically lost all hope of ever attaining this end. There my happiness in my Montana hills is spoiled every time an airplane passes over or anything else happens that reminds me of the inescapability of civilization. Life under the thumb of modern civilization seems worthless to measure and thus I more and more felt that life as coming to a dead end for me and death began at times to look attractive - it would mean peace. There as just once thing that really made me determined to cling to life for a while, and that was the desire for - revenge - I wanted to kill some people, preferably including at least one scientist, businessman, or another bigshot.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's ideal life



\begin{quote}


Our Society allows us great freedom to do nothing or to dream or to play games. But I consider these trivial freedoms and have little interest in them What I want is the opportunity to make the practical decisions affecting the physical conditions of my own existence. For example [\dots{}] the system makes all the decisions influencing air pollution (and noise pollution!) and it galls me that I can do nothing to change these decisions. All practical decisions are made by the system I want personal autonomy in making such decisions. But that is impossible in a technological society.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154976052}{154976052}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154975698}{>>154975698}


God bless you for this thread OP

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154976292}{154976292}


OP, what is the best bio on Ted? Is there an autobio of any sort?

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154976397}{154976397}


OP here. For the sake of context, it seemed Ted disliked dogs invading his property, i.e. he didn't appear to seek out dogs to harm, if indeed he was the guilty party.


\hairline


On the reaction of local dogs to Ted in Montana



\begin{quote}


Our dogs could smell him, and they hated him. He hated them as well. It seemed like all animals reacted aggressively towards Ted.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's relationship with a neighbour's dog named Jigger



\begin{quote}


Jigger was a [\dots{}] 120-pound male black Labrador retriever [\dots{}]. While we were away working Jigger would lie on the lawn or the porch and guard his domain [\dots{}] Jigger and Ted's first encounter [\dots{}] must have startled them equally, because they immediately established a mutual dislike. [\dots{}] The dog loved everyone except Ted, who provoked an immediate growl and a flash of sharp yellowish teeth.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On the mysterious death of Jigger



\begin{quote}


Betty called crying in great distress. [\dots{}] I found [her] in tears, cradling Jigger's head and comforting her companion of fourteen years. Jigger was crying and groaning [\dots{}] I found someone had repeatedly stabbed and gouged the entire area under his tail, shredding his colon, hips and rectal area [\dots{}] unmistakably the cuts were made with a very sharp knife or spear-like instrument. [\dots{}] I told Ted about [\dots{}] the sad mystery of losing Jigger. Ted showed little compassion and didn't indicate he knew anything about the events.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On another neighbour's dog being poisoned by strychnine



\begin{quote}


after Ted's arrest in 1996 [\dots{}] Butch Gehring and I talked about our dogs while out hiking together. He said one of his dogs got violently ill, but he managed to get it to the vet for treatment in time. The vet examined the dog [\dots{}] and discovered it had been poisoned by strychnine.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On the FBI's report of items discovered in Ted's cabin



\begin{quote}


L-9 - Black pepper can containing several metal pieces and a plastic bottle labelled "Strychnine Oats"



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154976420}{154976420}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969077}{>>154969077}


>I'm in a Ted thread


>I'm going to LARP as super-intelligent


Holy fucking hell, kys, this is some 8th grade level shit

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154976623}{154976623}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154976397}{>>154976397}


how can you not like doggos? Ted was right but he was a piece of shit in this regard.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154976714}{154976714}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154976623}{>>154976623}


My dog hates autistic or retarded people. Even kids.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154977025}{154977025}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154976623}{>>154976623}


He was still being lased by airborne CIA assets.


When u are being hunted\dots{} u take precautions.


He didnt learn abt magnets until this year to kill the rfids in him.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154977166}{154977166}


On another Lincoln librarian's memory of Ted



\begin{quote}


Sherry Woods, a librarian in Lincoln, Montana [\dots{}] described him as extremely polite, quiet and soft spoken, although she initially found his appearance as somewhat frightening. She described his ability to identify with her young child, whom she indicated shared some of the kinds of problems that Mr. Kaczynski may have had himself as a child. She noted that he patted her son on the shoulder twice, which is the only physical contact she ever saw him display over the 13 years of their acquaintance. [\Slash{}] When Wood's son, Danny, began having trouble in mathematics in school, Kaczynski tutored him. The two became fast friends. The boy even asked if they could "adopt" Kaczynski.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On one elderly local woman's memory of Ted



\begin{quote}


An elderly lady, [Irene] Preston lives in a cluttered log cabin on the edge of Lincoln and also cherishes Kaczynski [\dots{}] She still gets letters from him. Preston is alone now, with her four cats. For years [\dots{}] Kaczynski would invite [Irene and her husband] into his cabin, sharing his homemade beef jerky. Sometimes they played pinochle together.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On a census taker's memory of Ted's cabin



\begin{quote}


the usually unwashed Mr. Kaczynski did not raise eyebrows around Lincoln, where many people live secluded lives. "He was just a private person and enjoyed being up there by himself," said Joseph Youderian, who interviewed him for the 1990 census and was one of the few locals who entered his cabin. He saw shelves of books, a bunk, a wash basin and a man of few words. "I didn't push it. That's the way he wanted to live."



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154977175}{154977175}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154976623}{>>154976623}


I envy the dogs life

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154977230}{154977230}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154976714}{>>154976714}


Dogs will actually look at human faces. They're very sensitive to people's moods and can recognize things that people don't.


Your dog is simply responding instinctively to a human that is giving off aberrant signals.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154977485}{154977485}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154965762}{>>154965762}


No.12 is interesting. For some reason it reminds me of the same kinds of activists prior and during the Civil War. The Abolitionists. Just a fascinating connection.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154977633}{154977633}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154977230}{>>154977230}


I donno the slightly retarded kids across the street at my parents house are really nice and they also have dogs. Even from a pup my Dogo Argentino hates them. Nigger mailman pets him at the fence, slightly retarded nigger walks by and he goes bizerk. Literally everyone he gets along with except defective people.


Sorry to derail

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154977991}{154977991}


On Ted vandalizing the diesel engine of a nearby sawmill



\begin{quote}


my friend, and Ted's neighbor Butch Gehring, had purchased a sawmill and set it up just a few hundred yards from Ted's cabin. [\dots{}] One day [\dots{}] Butch had his mill up and running, he heard a different sound coming from the Allis-Chalmers diesel engine [\dots{}] he was startled and angry to find that a white, heavy, sandy material had been poured into the fuel system. [\dots{}] Right away he suspected Ted. Butch said he and Ted didn't always see eye to eye, and he felt Ted had a motive [\dots{}] I agreed there was motive - Ted surely didn't like having the sawmill and its noise so close to home he could hear it all day.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted breaking into the cabin of a family he disliked



\begin{quote}


The cabin owner said he and his kids had ridden their snowmobiles up around Ted's cabin and it had made him extremely upset [\dots{}] The person responsible had devastated the cabin and machines parked there and most everything was beyond salvaging. An ax had been used to hack a hole in the cabin to gain access. After entering, he then had chopped up the kitchen cabinets and emptied the contents of the refrigerator and thrown them across the floor [\dots{}] It was a scene of destruction. Whoever was responsible was a very angry and vengeful person. At the time, I heard the damage was estimated to be from \$20,000 to \$25,000



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted vandalizing the cabin of another family



\begin{quote}


During the late summer of 1980, a family moved onto some property that had just been logged. They set up a camp and had a couple of motorcycles for mountain transportation. The family left for several days. When they returned they found the motorcycles a sorry sight. All the tires were slashed, the bikes were smashed up and sugar had been poured into the gas tanks.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154978082}{154978082}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968516}{>>154968516}


Get a real job, shill.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154978206}{154978206}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154973936}{>>154973936}



\begin{quote}


Dear Dave, This picture reminds me of you when you were young. You were always such a cheerful, happy kid. I, on the other hand, have never been happy. I've never even had a close friend. I want you to know, in case anything happens to me, that you are the one person that I've ever loved.



\end{quote}

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154978387}{154978387}


On Ted complaining in his journal about the growing lack of quiet and solitude



\begin{quote}


that road was so closed off by fallen trees that it was hardly practical for trail bikes and snowmobiles. Then that [expletive] [name] cleared it all out with his cat, though it is still blocked for ordinary vehicles. Makes me ant to kill that [expletive]. Anyhow, it got me all upset and very depressed - all the more because the [expletive] is cutting posts up along [name] and that cuts down still further the places where I can walk in quiet and solitude.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted allegedly shooting a miner in the back



\begin{quote}


Two men had started a small placer mining operation in a streambed that flowed into a drainage some fifteen miles southeast of where we live on Stemple. [\dots{}] Then one afternoon one of the men was perched atop the washing plant. He bent over to inspect the machine while it was operating. A shot rang out. The man fell over, hit in the back. Miraculously he survived, but after a long, slow, and painful recovery, he remains partially crippled to this day.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted allegedly shooting at helicopters and airplanes



\begin{quote}


From the early 1980s on, rumous surfaced from time to time that someone was shooting at aircraft: helicopters, planes, even passenger jets far overhead. [\dots{}] At the time I questioned the validity of the reports because I didn't believe anyone around Lincoln could do such a thing. There was much I hadn't learned yet.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted chasing a motorcyclist away from his property



\begin{quote}


Another incident [\dots{}] was related to me by a friend who had ridden his motorcycle past Butch's sawmill and up an old logging skid trail near Ted's cabin. Ted heard him ride by and raced out cursing and screaming at him. Ted's hair was long and wild; with no shirt on, he was covered with dirt, waving his arms wildly, severely admonishing my friend to leave and never return.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154978447}{154978447}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154978206}{>>154978206}


>and in the end his own brother betrays him

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154978542}{154978542}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154977991}{>>154977991}


>ted REEEEEEE'ing at normies since the eighties

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154978554}{154978554}


On Ted's father's disgust for his son's lifestyle



\begin{quote}


Ted's father, who had visited him at his cabin and had left in disgust at the way his older son was living, had retired from part-time work when he was diagnosed with lung cancer in the late 1980's. When his condition began to deteriorate, his family informed Ted in a letter. His response was a brief call from the Lincoln post office.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted turning against his family



\begin{quote}


I can't imagine mom's pain when she experienced the first full blast of her elder son's rejection. It arrived in the form of a twenty-three-page letter [\dots{}] that accused her and Dad of being emotionally abusive parents. His hand seemingly shaking with rage as he wrote, Ted grew increasingly upset as he wove details from his childhood into an immense, dark tapestry of rejection and humiliation.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's growing distance from his family



\begin{quote}


He would remember something that my father said or my mother said, and it would be great weight, and he would attach some significance to it. He would build out of a few facts a picture that was unrecognizable." From then on, Ted told David, he would not open a letter from his brother unless it had a line drawn under the stamp to indicate a family emergency.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's further estrangement from his brother and parents



\begin{quote}


In the letter I wrote, I told Ted I missed him. I said I had some vacation time coming and would be happy to drive him to Helena to pick up supplies before the heavy snows came. I tried to invest all the love and concern I felt for Ted in a simple and straightforward letter. [\dots{}] Ted's reply came two weeks later [\dots{}] My heart sank as I read the opening lines: I get just choked with frustration at my inability to get our stinking family off my back once and for all, and "stinking family" emphatically includes you. I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE YOU OR HEAR FROM YOU, OR ANY OTHER MEMBER OF OUR FAMILY, EVER AGAIN".


\hairline



\end{quote}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154978691}{154978691}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154974162}{>>154974162}


>Being upset about a fucking jar


>that edgy response

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154978791}{154978791}


On Ted's reaction to his father's death



\begin{quote}


Theodore Kaczynski, recently diagnosed with fatal lung cancer, shot himself to death while his wife and David were in another room of the house. Lombard police and neighbors don't recall Ted coming home at the time of his father's death." [\dots{}] he did call during that service to offer condolences to his mother, and David's reaction was to worry about his brother. "I often thought about that conversation," he said. He envisioned Ted at a pay phone, awkwardly trying to express condolences to a mother he had ignored for years. "That's a Ted that's human, who I understand and love," David said.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's mother missing her son at Christmas time



\begin{quote}


We went into the living room to open Christmas presents. As the evening wore on and we sat among the fresh gifts and crumpled wrapping paper, Mom said:, "I hope Ted is not feeling sad today. Oh, I hope he doesn't feel lonely thinking about the Christmases we used to have. Maybe he has some friend who invited him over today so he's not all alone." "I hope so too," I said with little optimism.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154978853}{154978853}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154974970}{>>154974970}


>During May and June, before each meal I would eat a salad, often quite a large salad, by just strolling around my property, picking a bit of this and that, and popping it into my mouth

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154978918}{154978918}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154974693}{>>154974693}


The book he translated sounds like a faggy anime

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979022}{154979022}


On Ted contacting an old college crush



\begin{quote}


Historically, he has developed love relationships that were never reciprocated with individuals and maintained them for extended periods of time, idealizing them and at time devaluing them. An example is a relationship he wished he had developed with (REDACTED) when he was a young student at Harvard. He was able to identify that even at the age of 43, he had tracked her down and written her regarding the details of that relationship, which had never actually developed. He expressed regret that he had not heard back from her.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted telling his penpal - a Mexican laborer - about his romantic regrets



\begin{quote}


Kaczynski also lamented the fact that he did not have a family [\dots{}] your fortune is not all bad, because you have a wife and three children and all are healthy," the letter said. "\dots{} I wish I had a wife and children!"



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted's recurring desire to marry and procreate



\begin{quote}


in early 1988 I began suffering from desire for women. This was not mere sexual lust. What I craved was not just a screw but a love-relationship, children, and all that. Yet it seemed almost hopeless - I was getting old, I had no money, and I was tied down by the work I had to get done. What made it especially frustrating was the fact that [\dots{}] I ought to be able to get a wife or girlfriend but was prevented from doing so by my circumstances and my lack of social skills. [\dots{}] in the evening after supper - I was often afflicted with feelings of hopelessness centring around women , children, family etc.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979038}{154979038}


Clock bump thanks for the thread OP

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979045}{154979045}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154974693}{>>154974693}


>hates the sound of cars planes and motorcycles


>ungoldy loud bicycle

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979126}{154979126}


i remember the same thread last year in the same period

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979140}{154979140}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971699}{>>154971699}


Kek.


This is a narrative-controlling partial-disclosure thread.


Pizzagate is real.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979189}{154979189}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154977991}{>>154977991}


If he had moved to Alaska he could have found some peace and quiet, would probably not have bothered to murder people then.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979263}{154979263}


He is too good for this world.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979305}{154979305}


On Ted asking a therapist to find him a girlfriend



\begin{quote}


He indicates that his decision to seek this type of counseling resulted after having a dream about a young woman. Upon awakening he had the idea that perhaps at age 45 it was not too late for him to establish a relationship, and at that point he thought of leaving his isolated life in Montana and finding a job and a female for himself. As noted, he sent a detailed letter to the therapist and saw her once [\dots{}] He states that during the session the therapist [\dots{}] had mentioned the thought of her arranging a meeting with him and some of her female clients. He subsequently wrote her a letter with the hopes of reminding her to do so, but she did not pick up on his implied message.



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On Ted's continued struggles with loneliness and his recurring desire for romantic love



\begin{quote}


in interviews [he] would frequently tear up when remembering fleeting relationships he had with individuals. In that regard, it was noted that he tends to form very rapid intense emotional attachments to individuals, primarily women [\dots{}] Historically, he has developed love relationships that were never reciprocated with individuals and maintained them for extended periods of time [\dots{}] It was not until 1994 at the age of 50, that he further explored this issue and asked another woman, whom he did not know well, whether he was physically attractive. He indicated she responded he was "run of the mill" and at that point in time he no longer wondered why he had never developed a successful relationship [\dots{}]. As described, he had grappled with that issue for more than 30 years because he had been told he was physically attractive at the age of 15 and he held onto that belief; so he could never understand why women were not attracted. Having now been told by another female [\dots{}] that he was simply average in looks, it immediately provided him with an explanation for why he had never established a relationship with a woman.



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979496}{154979496}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968516}{>>154968516}


>anon look here's you're very own custom ad hominem - just for you! I'm so clever


great post, anon.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979521}{154979521}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154979126}{>>154979126}


OP here. This is a similar thread, albeit expanded with additional details and more recent updates.


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On Ted's bombings and efforts to avoid capture



\begin{quote}


He reads books on criminology and the science of fingerprinting. He kept his notes in codes that an FBI cryptologist told me "no one, not even NASA computers, could have broken had their searches not found the key in his cabin". He was very careful. He wore gloves when building his bombs and still soaked each piece in soybean oil and salt water, to obliterate fingerprints. He took the covers off the batteries so investigators could not find the bar codes [\dots{}] Kaczynski wore elaborate disguises. He dyed his hair, changed his eyeglasses frequently, put chewing gum under his lip or wax or Kleenex in a nostril to distort the shape of his face, used a variety of wigs and hats [\dots{}]



\end{quote}


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On Ted explaining his actions in his journal



\begin{quote}


I have no way of knowing whether my action will do more good than harm. I certainly don't claim to be an altruist or to be acting for the "good" (whatever that is) of the human race. I act merely from a desire for revenge.



\end{quote}


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On Ted's lack of remorse for his victims



\begin{quote}


In the entries that have been disclosed, Mr. Kaczynski expressed no remorse for his victims. After a bomb in 1985 ripped through the arm of John E. Hauser, a pilot and graduate engineering researcher at the University of California at Berkeley who hoped to become an astronaut, Mr. Kaczynski wrote, in a coded journal that was deciphered by Federal agents: ''I am no longer bothered by having crippled this guy. I laughed at the idea of having any compunction about crippling an airplane pilot.''



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979545}{154979545}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


Do you think women send his pictures of their tits?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979717}{154979717}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


The description of his family makes them sound Jewish. Do you believe that to be the case? A google search turns up some people who think so.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979730}{154979730}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154979545}{>>154979545}


OP here. This topic will be covered.


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On Ted's victim psychologist James McConnell



\begin{quote}


I believe, says Professor James V. McConnell of the University of Michigan, "that the day has come when we can combine sensory deprivation with drugs, hypnosis and astute manipulation of reward and punishment to gain absolute control over an individual's behaviour. It should be possible then to achieve a very rapid and highly effective type of positive brainwashing that would allow us to make dramatic changes in a person's behaviour and personality." [\dots{}] on November 15, 1985, Professor McConnell was at his home overlooking the Huron River [\dots{}] when he received a package mailed from Salt Lake City. [\dots{}] When McConnell's teaching assistant Nick Suino, opened the box, an explosion ripped through the room, injuring both men.



\end{quote}


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On Ted's writing his manifesto



\begin{quote}


the manifesto's apparent resemblance to the conventional wisdom of contemporary American was no accident. In fact, it was entirely intentional. To capture a wide audience, it offered a veritable tossed salad of ideas. [\dots{}] it borrowed from or partially embodied the ideas of Aristotle, Jefferson, and Marx; social critics Lewis Mumford, Erich Fromm, Paul Goodman, and Eric Hoffer; economists Thorsten Veblen, E.F. Schumacher, and Leopold Kohr; philosophers Oswald Spengler, Arthur Schopenhauer, Friedrich Nietzsche, and Hannah Arendt; [\dots{}] sociologists Theodor W. Adorno and Talcott Parsons; and many, many other thinkers including, of course, Ellul.



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979736}{154979736}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154979022}{>>154979022}


Fuck this is too real it's scary. I hope I will never end up like him, stuck in my rage and frustration of not fitting in

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979776}{154979776}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154976714}{>>154976714}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154976623}{>>154976623}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154977230}{>>154977230}


Animals like me a lot for some reason, and other people have noticed and commented on it. However one time I was walking through public footpaths as two women with a big dog were out walking there also, and their dog ran fast right at me, but went past me, in a sort of warning dummy charge.


I happened to be in a seething rage because my family are all severely insane, they constantly try to completely destroy their basic life stability and make it so no one near them can have a normal life. As I walked I had been thinking about how much better everything would be if they were dead, and about how great it would be if I could kill them somehow without going to prison, and the dog seemed to pick up on this and want to ward me away from it's owners.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979876}{154979876}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154978853}{>>154978853}


There are a lot of edible plants if you know what to look for.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154979910}{154979910}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154975564}{>>154975564}



\begin{verse}
I'm wondering is it possible the CIA is still abusing human rights?
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Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahaaa.


Thanks for the hearty laugh.


Wew

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154980128}{154980128}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970729}{>>154970729}


Yeah, but \Slash{}pol\Slash{} is a psy-op. It's meant to break you.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154980284}{154980284}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154979730}{>>154979730}


No mention of Thoreau in his work, I find that interesting.


He lived out the dreams from Walden, those dreams seem to me more American than anything, more of the American transcendentalist than any of the European authors in the list. Thoreau's short stories encompass most of Teddy's massage, check out a Week on the Concord and Merrimack Rivers if you want to see what I mean.


Feel like that quote might just be a little intellectual jerk-off on the part of whoever wrote it. The way it is written "including, of course" is so snobby. It's like they just want to show off the authors they've heard of.


OP, any chance you could source me that quotation?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154980378}{154980378}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154979776}{>>154979776}


Dogs live in the world we only perceive subconsciously.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154980379}{154980379}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154980128}{>>154980128}


\Slash{}pol\Slash{} has actually convinced me that I'm not crazy for holding the views that I do. If Ted had something like \Slash{}pol\Slash{} he probably would have not felt so completely isolated.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154980407}{154980407}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154979876}{>>154979876}


I just thought it was Funny that he calls walking around eating random shit having a large salad.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154980437}{154980437}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154979717}{>>154979717}


OP here. Neither Ted nor any of his known family are Jewish.


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On Ted's life at the time of his bombings



\begin{quote}


Kaczynski's life had become a living hell. Everything bothered him- the neighbors, the noise. [\dots{}] he was so busy. Busy making bombs. The interruptions interfered with his mission of revenge. He ate less, became increasingly unkempt. His insomnia and heart arrhythmia grew worse. He began taking antidepressants, but with little effect.



\end{quote}


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On Ted's struggle with guilt



\begin{quote}


His guilt also added to his isolation. For despite repeated denials, Kaczynski did have a conscience. And every time pangs of remorse arose, he fought to dismiss them. They were, he kept reassuring himself, signs of weakness. A sense of guilt was a failing, a symptom that one had been brainwashed. [\dots{}] "Guilty feelings?" he asked himself after the Percy Wood bombing. "Yes, a little." [\dots{}] After his bomb had maimed Captain John Hauser, he recorded: "I must admit I feel badly about having crippled this mas arms. It has been bothering me a great deal.



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154980532}{154980532}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154973481}{>>154973481}


>>"aside from his mother, who doted on him as a boy, there appears to have been no substantive relationship with a woman in all his life

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154980609}{154980609}


If anyone here has not read "Inudstrial Society and it's Future", you definitely should check it out.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154980640}{154980640}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154980379}{>>154980379}


Agreed

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154980860}{154980860}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154968907}{>>154968907}


Whaaaaaaaat ????? Wow, that makes me wonder, what if IM the mad one??? Maybe Hitler really was the bad guy\dots{}

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154981011}{154981011}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154980284}{>>154980284}


OP here. Ted does mention Thoreau once in a letter while in prison. When asked if he is similar to Thoreau he said he liked his and Emerson's writings aged 19, but did not see the similarity between them.


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On Ted's arrest



\begin{quote}


The plan was to lure Kaczynski out of his cabin before he could escape, set booby traps, or destroy evidence. [\dots{}] At Kaczynski's door, Burns hollered, "Hey Ted, can you come out here and show us where [the boundary of your property] is?" Kaczynski stuck his head out the door. [\dots{}] Before he could get back inside, Noel jumped him, quickly fastening handcuffs behind his back. [\dots{}] Kaczynski's clothes, DeLong recalls, were "rotting off his body [\dots{}] He smelled like warm dirt and was so filthy that even his long eyelashes were caked with soot - above the bluest eyes I have ever seen.



\end{quote}


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On one childhood neighbour's reaction to seeing Ted on the news



\begin{quote}


When former neighbor Evelyn Vanderlaan, 78, heard that the Kaczynskis' whiz-kid son, Teddy, was in the news, "I figured he had won the Nobel Prize or something."



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154981024}{154981024}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154979521}{>>154979521}


Holy shit the disguises.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154981319}{154981319}


On Ted defending his character



\begin{quote}


You asked how someone like me, who seems to be sensitive to other people's feelings and not vicious or predatory, could do what I've done. Probably the biggest reason why you find my actions incomprehensible is that you have never experienced sufficiently intense anger and frustration over a long enough period of time. Yo don't know what it means to be under an immense burden of frustrated anger or know how vicious it can make one. Yet there is no inconsistency between viciousness toward those whom one feels are responsible for one's anger, and gentlesness toward other people. If anything, having enemies augments one's kindly feelings toward those whom one regards as friends or as fellow victims.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted justifying his actions



\begin{quote}


Do I feel that my actions were justified? To that I can give you only a qualified yes.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154981329}{154981329}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154976623}{>>154976623}


I think you have to have had a dog as a kid to like them as an adult. I get the appeal, they're cute and smart for an animal, loyal, etc, etc. I just don't want to be around them and I think it's because I never got used to them when I was very young.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154981675}{154981675}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154981319}{>>154981319}


Bump

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154981789}{154981789}


On Ted's depiction in the media



\begin{quote}


[a] stereotype soon became fixed - Kaczynski was an "eccentric" who lived in the "wilderness." [\dots{}] He didn't have visitors, never went out, didn't own a watch, never had sex, and wasn't interested in money. He wouldn't drink coffee with the boys. He road a bicycle in winter. And he didn't talk much. [\dots{}] Knowing nothing about his habit of saving his best clothes for trips [\dots{}] they called him a slob.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154981900}{154981900}


On Ted's disposition over the decades in Montana according to a neighbour



\begin{quote}


Ted became even more withdrawn, quieter, almost lethargic, as if his life was winding down. This continued right up until I last spoke to him about a month before his arrest.



\end{quote}


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On David Kaczynski's thoughts about Ted's declining mental health



\begin{quote}


In some ways Ted never stopped being his mother's son. Unfortunately, his capacity for empathy was eroded by his strong sense of personal injury and disappointment; his hope for the world was shattered by an apocalyptic vision. His sense of utter helpessness in the face of the overwhelming threat technology posted to wild nature and to human freedom upset his fragile equilibrium and drove him to resist through violent means. He felt compelled to speak his truth; his integrity depended on it.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On Ted attempting suicide while awaiting sentencing



\begin{quote}


Kaczynski [\dots{}] wanted his ideas to be taken seriously more than he valued his own life. Instead, his own attorney's planned to portray the as symptoms of mental illness. [\dots{}] By January 7 [\dots{}] he couldn't stop his attorneys and he couldn't replace them. [\dots{}] Kaczynski, exhausted, depressed, and contemplating suicide [\dots{}] was "too tired," he told Burrell. [\dots{}] [He] lost hope that he could avoid a trial in which he would be portrayed as crazy and his ieas dismissed as the ravings of a madman. [\dots{}] that evening he tried to hang himself in his jail cell with his government-issue underpants.



\end{quote}


\hairline

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154982503}{154982503}


On one psychiatrist's assessment of Ted



\begin{quote}


One misunderstood form of emotional suffering [\dots{}] has been called the schizoid personality. [\dots{}] Mental health professionals are sometimes taught that such individuals are cold; aloof, and uninterested in relationships. This is a misunderstanding. It is not people that they avoid, but emotional intimacy, which they experience as intrusive, controlling, and at times even persecutory.



\end{quote}


\hairline


On another psychiatrist's profile of Ted


"People with the 4-6 two point code pattern (as evident in Mr. Kaczynski's profile [\dots{}]) are described as viewing the world as threatening and feeling misunderstood or mistreated by others. Such people can be hostile, irritable, and demanding. They are commonly very self-centered and are not concerned about the rights of others. Indeed, they are often resentful of the success of other people and suspicious of their motives. In addition, these people can be impulsive and manipulative, frequently getting into conflict with family and authorities. They often have unstable family lives, personal relationships, poor work and educational histories, and legal problems. This profile is associated with stable characteristics and such people are very resistant to treatment interventions. They often deny that they have problems and are evasive about discussing them, sometimes refusing to talk about personal shortcomings at all. They avoid close relationships and have trouble getting along with those people with whom they do come in contact, including family members. Such people have vague goals and are indecisive about many aspects of their lives.


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On one psychiatrist's assessment of Ted



\begin{quote}


One misunderstood form of emotional suffering [\dots{}] has been called the schizoid personality. [\dots{}] Mental health professionals are sometimes taught that such individuals are cold; aloof, and uninterested in relationships. This is a misunderstanding. It is not people that they avoid, but emotional intimacy, which they experience as intrusive, controlling, and at times even persecutory.



\end{quote}


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On another psychiatrist's profile of Ted



\begin{quote}


People with the 4-6 two point code pattern (as evident in Mr. Kaczynski's profile [\dots{}]) are described as viewing the world as threatening and feeling misunderstood or mistreated by others. Such people can be hostile, irritable, and demanding. They are commonly very self-centered and are not concerned about the rights of others. Indeed, they are often resentful of the success of other people and suspicious of their motives. In addition, these people can be impulsive and manipulative, frequently getting into conflict with family and authorities. They often have unstable family lives, personal relationships, poor work and educational histories, and legal problems. This profile is associated with stable characteristics and such people are very resistant to treatment interventions. They often deny that they have problems and are evasive about discussing them, sometimes refusing to talk about personal shortcomings at all. They avoid close relationships and have trouble getting along with those people with whom they do come in contact, including family members. Such people have vague goals and are indecisive about many aspects of their lives.



\end{quote}


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On Ted as a potential schizoid



\begin{quote}


The life mission of the individual laboring under a schizoid mindset is essentially carried out in a secluded isolation chamber, where the only self-validation is the echo of inner struggles. There may come a point where the only way appears to be deeper isolation This produces crippling loneliness and enhanced reliance on one's imagination - both of which must be paradoxically denigrated as signs of weakness, since they threaten one's illusion of absolute self-sufficiency and total logic. One becomes an enemy of one's self yet needs this self for survival. It is an endgame with absolute zero on the horizon. All positive emotions and connections are extinguished, and the only thing to cling to in the face of an impending apocalypse is fidelity to one's ideals. Despite all uncompromising, dogged efforts to achieve a secure and safe haven, the outside world and reality will make itself known in due course. When it does, it will be felt as an intolerable invasion of one's sanctuary. In the throes of agonizing emotional deprivation, one may grasp for help from a last vestige of trust - one's family. Yet when family can neither comprehend the intensity of one's struggle, nor feel at ease with the presence of threatening inner torment, one must shut them out too while reeling from the sting of betrayal. One is then trapped with no escape, a fearful animal in a corner. At this point a preemptive strike becomes a rational strategy. If only someone would notice your fear and pain, lift you out of captivity and let you back into the wild, where at least you can continue searching the wilderness for sanctuary and freedom!



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


Anonymous ID:JkQ7WNZP Sat 30 Dec 2017 19:18:53 \href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154982965}{No.}\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154982965}{154982965} \href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/report/154982965/}{Report}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


Woo! Comphytime!

\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154965815}{>>154965815}


Looks like most of it is from alton chase's Harvard and the unabomber the making of an american terrorist.


I wrote my senior paper own Ted, Chase's work was very useful.


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Anonymous ID:m+sVKlID Sat 30 Dec 2017 19:20:47 \href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154983147}{No.}\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154983147}{154983147} \href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/report/154983147/}{Report}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154978791}{>>154978791}


>As the evening wore on and we sat among the fresh gifts and crumpled wrapping paper, Mom said:, I hope Ted is not feeling sad today. Oh, I hope he doesn't feel lonely thinking about the Christmases we used to have. Maybe he has some friend who invited him over today so he's not all alone."


Oh holy fuck I wasn't ready for this feel.

\chapter{OP}


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On further analysis of Ted's mental state



\begin{quote}


He [\dots{}] is trapped in an excruciating dilemma of sensitivity and hunger for meaningful intimacy verses a fear of humiliation and exploitation by other's emotions. Social engagement is desperately needed, yet this desire is threatening and panic-inducing. Such individuals inevitably choose the only "reasonable" route available - isolation and inwardness.



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On Ted's links to the "mass shooters" of the 90s and onward



\begin{quote}


The study of individual cases that of mass shootings that have occurred since the '90's suggest that perpetrators often felt socially rejected, and perceived society as continually denouncing them as unnecessary, ineffectual, and pathetic. To use a schoolyard metaphor, they are the kid always picked last for the sports team. Instead of bearing the burden of the humiliation in the multitude of ways that schoolchildren do, they plan a surprise attack to prove their hidden "value." They become martyrs of the excommunicated - too egotistic to surrender to and benefit from what they cannot accept about themselves.



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On a final consideration of Ted's mental state over the course of his life



\begin{quote}


Take an individual endowed with exquisite sensitivity, high intelligence, and a paradoxical nature (distant yet sensitive, aloof yet easily hurt). Might such a person be influenced by an incremental convergence of early trauma, intense parental expectations, and then teenage trauma resulting in profound existential confusion? Continuing forward cautiously, is it too fantastic a supposition that this individual might come to view human intimacy as oversocialization? If so, this person may well view intimacy as a serious cruelty and destruction of personal freedom. Alone and with time to think, this person might begin to ruminate about how the system of oversocialization results in unforgivable sacrifices.



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154972627}{>>154972627}


dat iron fist inside the \Slash{}r9k\Slash{} glove tho

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154983517}{154983517}


Bump for interest

\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154979717}{>>154979717}


You could not get more \Slash{}pol\Slash{} than this post.

\chapter{OP}


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On Ted's change of fortunes with the opposite sex in prison



\begin{quote}


Before his arrest he’d had almost no experience with women, as he confided repeatedly to his diary. The opposite sex confounded him: What did women want? How did you know when they liked you? Why was it so hard? But as a notorious serial killer, he attracted the interest of women, dozens of them, who wrote him to say how handsome they thought he was. They called him “Teddy,” sent him provocative pictures, told him about their sex fantasies and begged to visit him. One woman, in a letter sent to Kaczynski’s attorneys, even proposed marriage. [\dots{}] The letters shocked him so much that even though he rejected the mental health profession he wrote to a psychologist to ask if he thought the woman might be mentally unstable. “Can unresolved anger lead to sadomasochistic sexual impulses?” he wrote.



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On Ted writing to one penpal about women



\begin{quote}


In your letter you stated that you could tell me some stories about girls and that you would raise my eyebrows. I doubt it. Since my arrest three years ago I've learned things that have raised my eyebrows so far that they've gone all the way over the top of my head and are halfway down my back by now.



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On Ted writing about one young female admirer



\begin{quote}


One is a young woman who has, by her own account, a very tragic history. [\dots{}] Today she has no close friends (though physically she is extremely attractive - she's sent me pictures) and she is desperately hungry for love and intimacy - and sex. She says she has "found herself" through writing to me [\dots{}] I find her letters rather disturbing, because she devotes a considerable part of them to sex fantasies of the grossest kind [\dots{}] But she's never had a sexual relationship with anyone (except her stepfather) [\dots{}] and she describes her masturbatory activities to me in great detail. [\dots{}] I find myself wondering, how did I get into this?



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


I see you watched netflix faggot

\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154981319}{>>154981319}


>sideshow bob hair


Tremendous.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154983968}{154983968}


Bumping this excellent thread


Thanks OP

\chapter{OP}


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On Ted the chivalrous Supermax prisoner



\begin{quote}


On the evening of Nov 29, 1996, I had finished my running and my stretch exercises when the door of 7th floor West opened and 3 lady prisoners came up the stairs. When they saw me they laughed, said "The Unabomber's out there!" and went back inside. I still had a few minutes of exercise time left, but instead of taking that time I went back inside so that the ladies could use the rec area. I'm so chivalrous!



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On Ted's prison letter to a man married to a feminist



\begin{quote}


I feel inclined to wish you a merry Christmas and a happy New Year, but I will refrain. It would be a cruel mockery to wish a merry or a happy anything to a man who is stuck with a feminist for a wife.



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On Ted's apology to the female sex



\begin{quote}


In earlier years I have thought and written things about women of which I am now ashamed, and I want to offer an apology [\dots{}] to the female sex in general. There were several reasons for my earlier resentment of women; [\dots{}] youthful machismo, my own lack of success with women, a fund of frustrated anger [\dots{}] Over the years my resentment of women has faded [\dots{}] And as I've grown older I've come to appreciate more and more the characteristic virtues of women, such as warmth, gentleness, and sensitivity to others' feelings.



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154983798}{>>154983798}


is it worth watching?

\chapter{OP}


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On Ted's prison romance



\begin{quote}


Kaczynski at some point began to correspond with [Joy] Richards, a woman he had never met but eventually fell in love with and wanted to marry. [\dots{}] Kaczynski mentioned Richards in countless letters to others. He wrote about how much he loved her, how lucky he was to have met her and, later, the extreme anguish he felt over her illness and death, at 53. “My friend has suffered more than anyone deserves to suffer, and I can do nothing to help her,” Kaczynski wrote in June 2006, expressing the kind of empathy he has never shown for the dozens of victims of his bombs.



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On Ted writing to other penpals of his relationship



\begin{quote}


“[Joy] is an angel. I mean a real one. I’m sure she could fly if she wanted to,” Kaczynski wrote to a pen pal in April 2002. “You don’t see her halo because she’s too modest to wear it. She keeps it hung up in her closet. But really she is an honest-to-goodness angel. Absolutely perfect.



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On Ted turning down further relationship proposals



\begin{quote}


Dear Ms., Thank you for your letter of October 3. You ask whether you can be my "second lady love." I've put that question to Lady Love \#1, and she says "no". [\dots{}] I have room for only Lady Love, and she is Lady Love \#1, to whom I am committed once and for all.



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On Ted rebuking yet another female admirer



\begin{quote}


Dear Ms. [\dots{}] In both your letters [\dots{}] you address me as "sweetheart." I don't think that Lady Love No. 1 would be comfortable with the tone of your letters are taking, and I know that I am not comfortable with it. So, I am breaking off my correspondence with you. You will not hear from me again.



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\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154984368}{154984368}


bump cause this was interesting

\chapter{OP}


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On Ted's opinion of Facebook



\begin{quote}


As for the Facebook idea, I can't give a definite answer because I know so little about Facebook. But my initial reaction is strongly negative because the little that I do know suggests that Facebook is mainly a place where adolescents (of any age) post narcissistic self-advertisements in an attempt to make friends via the Internet.



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On Ted's view of the potential benefit of the Internet



\begin{quote}


He wrote Murphy to say he had read an article in the Atlantic about WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and conservative activist Andrew Breitbart and their use of the Internet to disseminate previously concealed information. He thought these could be examples of using the Internet in a truly influential way.



\end{quote}


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On Ted's thoughts about Christopher McCandless



\begin{quote}


Through a journalist at the Buffalo News, McVeigh sent Kaczynski a copy of “Into the Wild,” writer Jon Krakauer’s account of a young man’s hike into the Alaskan wilderness. (Kaczynski, who is particular about his books, liked it.)



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154973248}{>>154973248}


They don't know what they are doing?

\chapter{OP}


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On Ted's favourite music



\begin{quote}


My taste runs to classical music, and my favourite music is probably Antonio Vivaldi's "L'Estro Armonico" (The Harmonic Summer). If you want to know what my favorite song is, I suppose it might be one of the songs from Handel's "Messiah," or maybe "Attendite Popule Meus" (Listen, My People) by Heinrich Schutz.



\end{quote}


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On the five dead people Ted would like to meet



\begin{quote}


I'd like to meet Joseph Conrad, V. I. Lenin, Pontiac, Benito Juarez, and Antonio Vivaldi.



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154983725}{>>154983725}


>But she's never had a sexual relationship with anyone (except her stepfather)

\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154978447}{>>154978447}


>in case anything happens to me, that you are the one person that I've ever loved.


Imagine being sent to prison for life by your own brother despite confessing to him that he's the only person you've ever loved. Woah.

\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154967390}{>>154967390}


>that date


fucking lel

\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971626}{>>154971626}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969605}{>>154969605}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154972807}{>>154972807}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154973481}{>>154973481}


>In college Ted is subjected to a trolling psyop disguised as psychological tests


>Ted's constantly trying to gain women's affection, but women are mostly oblivious


>One of such women, Ted makes a derisive poem about and distributes it over his workplace


>Ted considers a sex change


G-guys? Is Ted Kascinsky proto-Chris Chan?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154985699}{154985699}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154984457}{>>154984457}


OP you got anything about McVeigh and Ted during their time in prison.


I've seen the one letter Ted wrote about McVeigh but I didn't know about the book.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154985848}{154985848}


OP here. This is my final post. I hope this thread was interesting.


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On David Kazynski's thoughts about his brother's life


I think I love his purity, David said. "I think he's a person who wanted to love something and unfortunately, again, it gets so complex. He failed to love it in the right way because in some deep way, he felt a lack of love and respect himself.


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On Wanda Kaczynski's letters to Ted in prison



\begin{quote}


While Kaczynski refused to speak to his family after his arrest, his mother, Wanda, wrote him constantly until her death in 2011, in hopes of reconciliation. He never responded.



\end{quote}


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On Wanda Kaczynski's final letter to her son before her death



\begin{quote}


Dear Son, as always, I love you, mother



\end{quote}


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\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154985959}{154985959}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


Based Brit anon


Loved your lovecraft thread

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154985975}{154985975}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154985848}{>>154985848}


That story was sad

\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154975698}{>>154975698}


>>"What every woman wants is a Man, with a capital M. In other words, a man who has balls, not merely in the literal sense but also in the figurative sense. In Western culture, a woman's ideal has traditionally been "a knight in shining armor." [\dots{}] But the knight in shining armor no longer exists in Europe. The samurai has disappeared from Japan. The fierce nomad no longer rides across the Eurasian steppe. [\dots{}] And who has replaced these true Men? Behold modern man (small m): He sits all day on his fat bottom, punching keys on a computer. Terrified of losing the "job" on which he is helplessly dependent, he cringes before his boss, invents petty subterfuges and little lies to conceal his errors and his trivial misdeeds. There are no true Men left; or rather, such true Men as remain are in prison. [\dots{}] Is it any wonder that feminist[s] have lost respect for men? Or that they resent men for failing to be Men after whom (however vehemently they deny it) their hearts yearn?


Holy shit, spot fucking on.

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154986169}{154986169}


OP here. This is my final post. I hope this thread was interesting.


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On David Kazynski's thoughts about his brother's life



\begin{quote}


I think I love his purity," David said. "I think he's a person who wanted to love something and unfortunately, again, it gets so complex. He failed to love it in the right way because in some deep way, he felt a lack of love and respect himself.



\end{quote}


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On Wanda Kaczynski's letters to Ted in prison



\begin{quote}


While Kaczynski refused to speak to his family after his arrest, his mother, Wanda, wrote him constantly until her death in 2011, in hopes of reconciliation. He never responded.



\end{quote}


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On Wanda Kaczynski's final letter to her son before her death



\begin{quote}


Dear Son, as always, I love you, mother



\end{quote}


\hairline

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154986330}{154986330}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154985848}{>>154985848}


Many thanks, anon.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154986428}{154986428}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154969579}{>>154969579}


>Who are you \dots{} Sylvester the Cat?


was that supposed to be an insult?


the nigger used a word entirely appropriately, not even a particularly big word, and one that has absolutely nothing to do with Sylvester the fucking Cat


he's right, you are insufferable


kys

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154986443}{154986443}


>This thread


I did not ask for these feels

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154986447}{154986447}


OP here.


Here is a list of similar threads for those interested:


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Biographies


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>Adolf Hitler - Youth (Age 0 - 25)


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>Adolf Hitler - First World War (Age 25 - 29)


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/134340484/}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}134340484\Slash{}}


>Adolf Hitler - Rise to Power (Age 29 - 43)


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/150760491/}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}150760491\Slash{}}


>Joseph Goebbels


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/142878351}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}142878351}


>Rudolf Hess


\href{http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/152757392/}{http:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}152757392\Slash{}}


>Ted Kaczynski


\href{http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/}{http:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}154963372\Slash{}}


>Timothy McVeigh


\href{http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/118541028/}{http:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}118541028\Slash{}}


>Anders Breivik


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>H.P. Lovecraft


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/141773539}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}141773539}


>William Cottrell


\href{https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/30930679}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}desuarchive.org\Slash{}r9k\Slash{}thread\Slash{}30930679}


>Adam Lanza


\href{https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/24985710/}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}desuarchive.org\Slash{}r9k\Slash{}thread\Slash{}24985710\Slash{}}


>Christopher Thomas Knight


\href{http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/122023099/}{http:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}122023099\Slash{}}


>Christopher McCandless


\href{http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/122167113/}{http:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}122167113\Slash{}}


>Christopher Harper-Mercer


\href{https://4archive.org/board/r9k/thread/31293613}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}4archive.org\Slash{}board\Slash{}r9k\Slash{}thread\Slash{}31293613}


>Bill Hicks


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/128627797/}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}archive.4plebs.org\Slash{}pol\Slash{}thread\Slash{}128627797\Slash{}}


>Dylann Roof


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Books


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>Julius Evola - Ride The Tiger


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Thank You and Happy New Year.


\hairline

\section{Anon}


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154986447}{>>154986447}


It seems that you have an admiration for those that felt most aggrieved by the state of the world. My guess is that you experience a likewise attitude. These people you mentioned all have differing views, yet what they have in common is the voice and uproar they caused because of their dissatisfaction. Could you say that you may not necessarily rationalize their views and motives as actual solutions, but rather you share with them this feeling of abysmal despair towards the current state of the world?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154987260}{154987260}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154986447}{>>154986447}


Thank you, great thread as usual. And a happy new year to you and yours too, mate

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154987361}{154987361}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154971699}{>>154971699}

\chapter{OP}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154987375}{154987375}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154985699}{>>154985699}


OP here.


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On Ted Kaczynski's view of McVeigh



\begin{quote}


On a personal level I like McVeigh and I imagine that most people would like him," Kaczynski wrote. "He was easily the most outgoing of all the inmates in our range of cells and had excellent social skills. [\dots{}] I've already noticed that he spoke of respect for other people's cultures, and in doing so sounded like a liberal. He certainly was not a mean or hostile person, and [\dots{}] I suspect that he is an adventurer by nature, and America since the closing of the frontier has had little room for adventurers.



\end{quote}


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On Ted's relationship with McVeigh



\begin{quote}


The prisoners on his cell block, he added, “are easy to get along with.” He had particular praise for Yousef and McVeigh, whom he described in another letter as “very intelligent \dots{} friendly and considerate of others.” “Actually,” Kaczynski told another pen pal, “the people I am acquainted with in this range of cells \dots{} are nicer than the majority of people I’ve known on the outside.



\end{quote}


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On Ted's frustration with how the media represented McVeigh



\begin{quote}


I can say that McVeigh has been misrepresented by the media. [\dots{}] on a personal level he is a very decent fellow, friendly and considerate of others. [\dots{}] a lot of what the media have printed about McVeigh is crap. He is not a "neonazi racist" [\dots{}] and he doesn't believe that satellites control people or that he has a computer chip implanted in his chest.


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\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154984457}{>>154984457}


\hairline



\end{quote}

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154987689}{154987689}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154963372}{>>154963372}


Noice. Love these. Who were your most recent threads about? Just in case I missed some

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154987712}{154987712}


kewl

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154987803}{154987803}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154965937}{>>154965937}


>beat three grown women


That's called gender differences, not mathematical talent.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154987951}{154987951}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154967861}{>>154967861}


At this point in the story, he's just the average \Slash{}r9k\Slash{} robot

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154988018}{154988018}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154986447}{>>154986447}


Thanks pal. I always enjoy following threads like this. My favorite was the one about Knight.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154988183}{154988183}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154987375}{>>154987375}


thanks

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154988361}{154988361}


Wait a minute. This is a repost

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154988475}{154988475}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970729}{>>154970729}


I was just thinking that. I've had my beliefs interrogated for years.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154988544}{154988544}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154988475}{>>154988475}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970729}{>>154970729}


this place is pretty hivemind

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154988645}{154988645}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154984896}{>>154984896}


He's broad as fuck, maximum neanderthal genes.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154988896}{154988896}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154978554}{>>154978554}


>he would not open a letter from his brother unless it had a line drawn under the stamp to indicate a family emergency


Is this like a universal thing or what? I never knew this.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154989023}{154989023}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154986169}{>>154986169}


Good stuff.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154989336}{154989336}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154965128}{>>154965128}



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When hugged as a child, he squired instead of hugging back. Later on in adolescence, he stiffened when being hugged by his mother. It was as if Ted's way of relating obeyed a different set of rules. Unable to fathom Ted's internal physics, Dad eventually gave up, whereas Mom preferred to believe that Ted's sensitive inner self was normally loving, only hard to reach.



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So he was an Autist?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154989759}{154989759}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154984037}{>>154984037}


>He also appreciates their willingness to fuck a famous killer

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154990646}{154990646}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154976397}{>>154976397}


OP, can you share with us this FBI report detailing the contents of Ted's cabin?

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154990712}{154990712}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154983725}{>>154983725}


Fantastic, black comedy twist here, and overall great thread. Thanks, OP.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154990947}{154990947}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154984297}{>>154984297}


Surprised by Joy.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154991149}{154991149}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154989336}{>>154989336}


>So he was an Autist?


the guy pretty much invented autism. weaponised autism in particular

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154991293}{154991293}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154964287}{>>154964287}


I've only read up to here, and had to stop because of how shit this entire topic is. Every single line is a new assumption.



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the hurt of going to the hospital as a baby NEVER left him



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\begin{quote}


he cried when his dad killed a bunny, and that NEVER left him



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My 3 year old self would probably also cry if I saw a bunny get shot. This is all trying too hard to make him seem like a victim, when in actuality he made stupid decisions and ruined his life.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154991298}{154991298}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154978554}{>>154978554}


>that entire fucking post.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154991328}{154991328}


\href{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDZH7cJhJHk}{https:\Slash{}\Slash{}www.youtube.com\Slash{}watch?v=yDZH7cJhJHk}


!6659283866 ID:JTFk3k5o Sat 30 Dec 2017 20:56:32 \href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154991338}{No.}\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154991338}{154991338}


Where's the pdf with bomb making from Ted?


You know, for\dots{} research

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154991617}{154991617}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154973481}{>>154973481}


>recalls 'that one comment' which he said at 15, all the while being 36


this is what happens when you literally don't talk to people for two decades straight

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154992028}{154992028}


Bump

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154992167}{154992167}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154986169}{>>154986169}


a nature introvert pushed to the edge


im 25\% there

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154992529}{154992529}


Good thread, op. Fascinating stuff.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154992728}{154992728}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154991338}{>>154991338}


nice try fbi

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154993123}{154993123}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154986169}{>>154986169}


I thought that in supermax they remained locked up for the entire day? How would he get to know other prisoners

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154993851}{154993851}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154970729}{>>154970729}


I think I'd had done pretty well. Mostly due to \Slash{}pol\Slash{}. I'm 22 now. Not sure if I'd done it as a teenager.

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154993903}{154993903}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154966914}{>>154966914}



\begin{quote}


His aunt still remembers the cut of his arrogance. "Once when I was over to his home, he was just sitting there, and his father said to him, 'Why don't you have some conversation with your aunt?' And he answered: 'Why should I? She wouldn't understand me anyway.'



\end{quote}


AUNT BTFO

\section{Anon}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#q154994138}{154994138}


\href{https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/154963372/\#154967390}{>>154967390}


I'm surprised she didn't marry him after that date. Boys got commitment









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