FBI

FBI Interview of a Greyhound Bus Driver

April 1, 1996

Date of Transcription: April 1, 1996

THOMAS L. STELL, white male, date of birth (omitted), (information omitted) Montana, telephone number (omitted), was advised of the official identities of the interviewing agents and the nature of the interview. STELL provided the following information:

STELL has been a bus driver for RimRock Trailways (RRS) since September of 1994. Prior to driving for RimRock, he drove the Billings, Montana to Seattle, Washington and return bus route for Greyhound Lines for approximately six years. STELL currently is driving the RRS Great Falls, Montana to Idaho Falls, Idaho bus route. STELL advised that the drivers switch in Butte for the RRS Great Falls, Montana to Idaho Falls, Idaho bus route. Stell advised at approximately 3:30 am the schedule 16 bus leaves Butte for Great Falls and the schedule 15 bus returns to Butte at approximately 10:20 am. The schedule 15 bus leaves Butte for Idaho Falls at approximately 10:45 am and the schedule 14 bus returns to Butte at approximately 7:00 pm. The schedule 13 bus leaves Butte for Idaho Falls at approximately 7:30 pm and the schedule 16 returns to Butte at approximately 3:00 am. The schedule 13, 14, 15 and 16 are all RRS route 7915 busses.

STELL stated that he drove the Missoula, Montana to Helena, Montana and return from June, 1995 to the first part of September, 1995. The schedule 6 bus would leave Missoula at approximately 4:00 pm and returns to Missoula at approximately 6:45 pm. The schedule 3 bus leaves Missoula at approximately 7:15 pm and returns to Missoula at approximately 9:30 pm. The drivers would switch in Helena.

STELL stated that the bus station managers in Great Falls, Montana are VERN and LODIE (LNU). He advised that the RRS Great Falls drivers, for the period of time discussed, are BOB LAIRD, Sr., BOB LAIRD, Jr., TOM CAMPBELL and TOM CARPENTER.

STELL was shown photographs without any identifying information of THEODORE J. KACZYNSKI, both with and without a beard. STELL stated he recognized the photo of KACZYNSKI without the beard. STELL could not provide any additional descriptive information, except he believes KACZYNSKI had been wearing a dark baseball cap the last time he saw him. STELL thinks the last time was on the bus, which Stell was driving, was several months ago. STELL was not advised of KACZYNSKI's name or current. whereabouts.

STELL believes he is sure that he drove KACZYNSKI on the Great Falls to Idaho Falls bus, and vice versus, a number of times, remembering KACZYNSKI at least 3 or 4 times at the driver switch point in Butte.