#title Luigi Mangione’s handwritten notes on his back pain & injury
#date 2019-05-18
#source Multiple linked underneath each heading.
#lang en
#pubdate 2025-06-27T04:43:48
#authors Luigi Mangione
#topics
*** From Luigi to Jules — On living with chronic back pain — 2025
**Sources:**
- <[[https://www.reddit.com/r/BrianThompsonMurder/comments/1kmovov/heres_the_full_picture_of_juless_letter/][https://www.reddit.com/r/BrianThompsonMurder/comments/1kmovov/heres_the_full_picture_of_juless_letter/]]>
- <[[https://www.tiktok.com/@luigiprosper/video/7503633017697586453][https://www.tiktok.com/@luigiprosper/video/7503633017697586453]]>
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Re: Your 4/28 Letter:
“How do you remain so chill?”
Jules, I spent 1 ½ years living on a broken spine that I could feel sliding around every time I stood up, walked, or rolled over in bed. To exist in such a state — your physical being split in two — is an endless physical and mental war within the self.
After you have fought and won internal wars, nothing *external* — nothing — can ever phase you.
That, and I have the best team in the world.
Carpe Diem,
Luigi Mangione
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*** Review of ‘Bigger Leaner Stronger’ — May 18, 2019
**Source:** <[[https://defenderofbasic.github.io/luigi-mangione-storyline/books/goodreads-read.html][defenderofbasic.github.io/luigi-mangione-storyline/books/goodreads-read.html]]>
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Title: Bigger Leaner Stronger: The Simple Science of Building the Ultimate Male Body
Author: Michael Matthews
Read: 2019-09-??
Added: 2019-05-18
Rated: ★★★★
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*The* introduction to weightlifting.
Fantastic, clear content.
-1 star: too infomercial, too aesthetics-focused
My written notes: [[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fxjeh6cpG9kAMYNtpuCFuA_Em96sSoQV/view][https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fxje...]]
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**Internal research notes – Lower back pain**
My injury: L5 Spondylolisthesis
- Pars fracture → vertebra slippage/fracture
Isthmic Spondylolisthesis (spon-do-lis-the-sis)
- Repetitive stress most commonly when young (5–7 years old),
- symptoms not developing until adulthood
- 5–7% of the population has pars fractures or spondylolisthesis
- 80% of those with spondylolysis have progression to slippage
- is only 15–20% become symptomatic enough to require surgery
- of L5-S1 (my injury) not usual instability because ligamental (sacral alignment) prevents L5 from slipping further onto sacrum.
Grading (Severity of slippage):
- Grade 1: 0–25% of vertebra has slipped forward
- Grade 2: 26–50%
- Grade 3: 51–75%
- Grade 4: 76–100%
- My injury: ~30% slip → Low Grade 2
Common symptoms of Isthmic Spondylolisthesis:
- Low back pain
- Pain worsens with:
- Standing
- Walking
- Bending backward
- Pain improves with: Sitting
Non-Surgical Treatment:
- Pain medications:
- Acetaminophen or NSAIDs to reduce
inflammation
- Heat/ice therapy:
- Ice directly after activities that cause pain
- Heat before motion to promote blood flow/muscle relaxation
- Physical Therapy:
- Focus on muscle strengthening and stretching (twice daily)
- Stretching lower back
- Mostly for leg pain (sciatica)
Back Brace?
- DO NOT DEPEND ON IT
- Only for short-term relief
- Long-term use can weaken muscles, leading to:
- Increased muscle atrophy
- Increased dependence on brace
- Increased pain & chance of injury
How to adjust training?
(Source: StartingStrength.com – “Spondylolisthesis & Lifting”)
- Mark Rippetoe’s response:
- Acute models diagnose this then correct it by discouraging weightlifting
- Extension exercises worsen symptoms (e.g., sit-ups, back extensions)
- Corrective approach:
- Hold the spine in a neutral anatomical position (isometric stabilization, e.g., squats, deadlifts)
- NECESSARY for stabilizing injury
- Competing at high intensity → No longer possible, but weightlifting should not be completely eliminated
- Anecdotal evidence from others with spondylolisthesis:
- Squatting, deadlifting helped eliminate pain
- Caveat:
- Cannot lose form – might not be able to attempt max lifts
Summary of Key Points:
1. L5 Spondylolisthesis (Low Grade 2, ~30% slip)
1. Symptoms: Low back pain, worse with standing/walking, better with sitting.
1. Non-surgical treatments: NSAIDs, ice/heat, PT (stretching & strengthening).
1. Bracing: Only for short-term; long-term use weakens muscles.
1. Training: Avoid hyperextension, focus on neutral spine stability (e.g., squats, deadlifts).
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